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daycare 10:49 AM 08-27-2015
So i am laid up in my room and my lead asst comes in and says I need to tell you what just happened AGAIN.. you know it's not good when they say it like that.

We are Pting a 3.5 yr old child that is quite strong willed. Had older sibling and they were exactly the same way. Infact the sibling was almost 5 when finally PT here with me some years back.

both Tuesday and this morning the kid was sent to the bathroom to go pee. Tuesday my asst when in to check on child and finds poop everywhere. Same thing again this morning. poop is all over the place, takes 45 min to clean everything up including child.

Despite all staff asking the child did you poop, the child will say no, no matter what. The child will go pee in the toilet only when told, has never asked.

The child does not want to PT here. Of course parents claim at home child is 100%

child is in pull ups and I am over it. DCK was sent home in diapers on tuesday and was told why. DCParents insist on PTing the child.

thoughts, ideas??
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Blackcat31 11:40 AM 08-27-2015
Originally Posted by daycare:
So i am laid up in my room and my lead asst comes in and says I need to tell you what just happened AGAIN.. you know it's not good when they say it like that.

We are Pting a 3.5 yr old child that is quite strong willed. Had older sibling and they were exactly the same way. Infact the sibling was almost 5 when finally PT here with me some years back.

both Tuesday and this morning the kid was sent to the bathroom to go pee. Tuesday my asst when in to check on child and finds poop everywhere. Same thing again this morning. poop is all over the place, takes 45 min to clean everything up including child.

Despite all staff asking the child did you poop, the child will say no, no matter what. The child will go pee in the toilet only when told, has never asked.

The child does not want to PT here. Of course parents claim at home child is 100%

child is in pull ups and I am over it. DCK was sent home in diapers on tuesday and was told why. DCParents insist on PTing the child.

thoughts, ideas??
I thought you didn't accept non-potty trained kids into your program? Or didn't participate in the training process?
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Snowmom 11:49 AM 08-27-2015
Eeks.
I would have a little chat with the parents about how unsanitary and time consuming his behaviors have become and either:
1. DCK needs to take a break from potty training and resume when his behavior and understanding of proper "toilet behavior" has improved.
or
2. Parents pay for a hefty cleaning/disinfecting bill that includes labor and materials to clean up his mess.
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daycare 11:54 AM 08-27-2015
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
I thought you didn't accept non-potty trained kids into your program? Or didn't participate in the training process?
I didn't use to take them not PT

now that all of my kinders aged out and left 8 open spots, I had to enroll younger kids. also because of universal TK.

When I am working with the kids I make certain to check each child before going to then bathroom to prevent these things, but both times staff were up to their elbows in activities not leaving any free hands to check. they trusted the child was telling the truth and told them go to the bathroom.

I personally just want to put the child back in diapers and have them go back to the toddler bathroom break schedule. my staff doesn't want to do that as the child bugs all of the toddlers. I want to make sure I hear my staffs struggles and help them find a resolution.
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Leigh 02:11 PM 08-27-2015
I'd give the parents an ultimatum (I just did this with a parent whose child who potty trained here first, then at home, then regressed here only-he absolutely refuses to use the toilet). I told the parents that he will be in diapers or he won't be here. I am done trying to potty train him because he is fully capable of using the toilet, he just chooses not to. There is no more training to be done. He's in diapers until HE decides he's going to use the toilet here again. Period. Child came the next day with a box of diapers.
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grateday 08:05 PM 08-28-2015
Talk to the parents. If you don't like or agree tell them, tell them why. See if you can come to solution together. If not insist on pull ups. If they say no, say they can hire a potty training specialist to come in and work with there son. They can pay for all the clean up expenses that come along with the accidents too.

I am no longer worried about what people think about my son's will to not go, he is 4 years old but made the choice. Do I encourage, yes. I don't want him to develop a psychological disorder because of a mommy trying to push too hard to potty train. Every 2 hours I say its time to go in and take care of ourselves.

He does not like that even. But I am not going to neglect him and have him getting a rash. He is developmentally not ready. You can use my story if you want. Experts are saying that pushing someone who is not ready is unhealthy and a professional childcare should never be put in that situation.
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grateday 08:08 PM 08-28-2015
Talk to the parents. If you don't like or agree tell them, tell them why. See if you can come to solution together. If not insist on pull ups. If they say no, say they can hire a potty training specialist to come in and work with there son. They can pay for all the clean up expenses that come along with the accidents too.

I am no longer worried about what people think about my son's will to not go, he is 4 years old but made the choice. Do I encourage, yes. I don't want him to develop a psychological disorder because of a mommy trying to push too hard to potty train. Every 2 hours I say its time to go in and take care of ourselves.

He does not like that even. But I am not going to neglect him and have him getting a rash. He is developmentally not ready. You can use my story if you want. Experts are saying that pushing someone who is not ready is unhealthy and a professional childcare should never be put in that situation.

I just had a DCD stop sending me pullups and I was upset and told him. She will be ready when she is ready. I know she knows how and she knows how but she is not ready. Angrily he came the next day with pullups. The day he brought the pullups for her, was the day she made up her own mind that she was going to wear her underwear only and go when she had to go. Kids can be headstrong and a part of me wonders if she was listening to me that day as I was talking to her dad.
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Unregistered 01:54 PM 08-31-2015
Is she smearing the poop all over? Like on purpose?
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