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momma4many 07:21 PM 05-17-2011
Hi there everyone! I have just opened my first daycare and have some questions about my dcg. She is 12 months old and has been in a center her whole life. Now, in my daycare she is the only dck that I have right now. I told her parents that this would be the case and they were fine with that. She started out great, but now it has turned into a scenario that I'm not sure how to handle. First off, she is teething. They told me that they have been giving her tylenol in the morning so that it helps her discomfort, but refuse to send anything with her for during the day. The poor thing is miserable! I have tried to talk to both parents about this and they make a quick excuse and all but run out the door. When I tried to show them her daily sheet, with specifics about her day, they said that was not necessary and didn't even look at it. They actually said today that they almost forgot to pick her up! They seem very concerned about some things, but not other very important things.
The other issue I am having is they don't want her to nap b/c she goes to bed better at night (sigh). I told them that was not an option, she must nap, and they said they DO NOT want her to CIO, so if she does, she will have to be picked up and comforted. They said at home, she sleeps like a charm and has never slept at daycare. I told them that is probably b/c she was overstimulated in the center and that she is VERY tired here, but that it will take some time to get her to go to sleep w/o fussing. They said I could try to rock her and put her down, but no CIO. Even said they would be stopping by randomly to check. My policy states that if they do stop by to please not do so during nap time b/c, and if they do at any time, that they must take her with them when they leave. I seriously doubt that they will but it sets my nerves on edge anyway. I am starting to resent this situation and feel like it's risky to keep her b/c of their behavior, but I really need the income, we are SO struggling right now, so terming is not an issue. Any advice?
The other issue I am having is they don't want her to nap b/c she goes to bed better at night (sigh). I told them that was not an option, she must nap, and they said they DO NOT want her to CIO, so if she does, she will have to be picked up and comforted. They said at home, she sleeps like a charm and has never slept at daycare. I told them that is probably b/c she was overstimulated in the center and that she is VERY tired here, but that it will take some time to get her to go to sleep w/o fussing. They said I could try to rock her and put her down, but no CIO. Even said they would be stopping by randomly to check. My policy states that if they do stop by to please not do so during nap time b/c, and if they do at any time, that they must take her with them when they leave. I seriously doubt that they will but it sets my nerves on edge anyway. I am starting to resent this situation and feel like it's risky to keep her b/c of their behavior, but I really need the income, we are SO struggling right now, so terming is not an issue. Any advice?
Michael 11:05 PM 05-17-2011
Welcome to the Daycare.com Forum momma4many!
Cat Herder 04:39 AM 05-18-2011
Originally Posted by momma4many:
Hi there everyone! I have just opened my first daycare and have some questions about my dcg. She is 12 months old and has been in a center her whole life. Now, in my daycare she is the only dck that I have right now. I told her parents that this would be the case and they were fine with that. She started out great, but now it has turned into a scenario that I'm not sure how to handle. First off, she is teething. They told me that they have been giving her Tylenol in the morning so that it helps her discomfort, but refuse to send anything with her for during the day. The poor thing is miserable! I have tried to talk to both parents about this and they make a quick excuse and all but run out the door. When I tried to show them her daily sheet, with specifics about her day, they said that was not necessary and didn't even look at it. They actually said today that they almost forgot to pick her up! They seem very concerned about some things, but not other very important things.
Unfortunately this is becoming more and more common. Parents are really overloaded at work , often wearing multiple hats since all support staff are the first to go in times of economic instability. Many live under threat of termination daily, especially young moms.
What I am seeing is that parents really just want to drop their kids off, then not have to worry about them for the 10 hours a day they are with you. They don't want bad news, they want you to handle what happens at your house and they will handle what happens at their house. YKWIM?
As far as the teething, anti-platelets (acetaminophen) are not quite as effective as anti-inflamatories (ibuprofen) for teething pain. The Tylenol is only getting 4 hours of minimal effect whereas simply switching to Motrin would allow her 8 hours of almost total relief.
The other issue I am having is they don't want her to nap b/c she goes to bed better at night (sigh). I told them that was not an option, she must nap, and they said they DO NOT want her to CIO, so if she does, she will have to be picked up and comforted. They said at home, she sleeps like a charm and has never slept at daycare. I told them that is probably b/c she was overstimulated in the center and that she is VERY tired here, but that it will take some time to get her to go to sleep w/o fussing. They said I could try to rock her and put her down, but no CIO. Even said they would be stopping by randomly to check. My policy states that if they do stop by to please not do so during nap time b/c, and if they do at any time, that they must take her with them when they leave. I seriously doubt that they will but it sets my nerves on edge anyway. I am starting to resent this situation and feel like it's risky to keep her b/c of their behavior, but I really need the income, we are SO struggling right now, so terming is not an issue. Any advice?
Unfortunately the parents will need to realize that they chose to put their child in daycare, as one of a group. CIO is the only option we have when caring for 6-14 kids, it is just reality. It is the parents responsibility to prepare their child for the best possible transition to daycare, THEY are doing the child a disservice by demanding "special".
The standard policy is "If your child has outgrown their nap, they have outgrown daycare." It really is that simple. Naptime is part of the daycare schedule, mandated by law in most places (here), it is not negotiable. If daycare is not right for their child then they need to make a different life decision.
Hope that helps Hi there everyone! I have just opened my first daycare and have some questions about my dcg. She is 12 months old and has been in a center her whole life. Now, in my daycare she is the only dck that I have right now. I told her parents that this would be the case and they were fine with that. She started out great, but now it has turned into a scenario that I'm not sure how to handle. First off, she is teething. They told me that they have been giving her Tylenol in the morning so that it helps her discomfort, but refuse to send anything with her for during the day. The poor thing is miserable! I have tried to talk to both parents about this and they make a quick excuse and all but run out the door. When I tried to show them her daily sheet, with specifics about her day, they said that was not necessary and didn't even look at it. They actually said today that they almost forgot to pick her up! They seem very concerned about some things, but not other very important things.
Unfortunately this is becoming more and more common. Parents are really overloaded at work , often wearing multiple hats since all support staff are the first to go in times of economic instability. Many live under threat of termination daily, especially young moms.
What I am seeing is that parents really just want to drop their kids off, then not have to worry about them for the 10 hours a day they are with you. They don't want bad news, they want you to handle what happens at your house and they will handle what happens at their house. YKWIM?
As far as the teething, anti-platelets (acetaminophen) are not quite as effective as anti-inflamatories (ibuprofen) for teething pain. The Tylenol is only getting 4 hours of minimal effect whereas simply switching to Motrin would allow her 8 hours of almost total relief.
The other issue I am having is they don't want her to nap b/c she goes to bed better at night (sigh). I told them that was not an option, she must nap, and they said they DO NOT want her to CIO, so if she does, she will have to be picked up and comforted. They said at home, she sleeps like a charm and has never slept at daycare. I told them that is probably b/c she was overstimulated in the center and that she is VERY tired here, but that it will take some time to get her to go to sleep w/o fussing. They said I could try to rock her and put her down, but no CIO. Even said they would be stopping by randomly to check. My policy states that if they do stop by to please not do so during nap time b/c, and if they do at any time, that they must take her with them when they leave. I seriously doubt that they will but it sets my nerves on edge anyway. I am starting to resent this situation and feel like it's risky to keep her b/c of their behavior, but I really need the income, we are SO struggling right now, so terming is not an issue. Any advice?
Unfortunately the parents will need to realize that they chose to put their child in daycare, as one of a group. CIO is the only option we have when caring for 6-14 kids, it is just reality. It is the parents responsibility to prepare their child for the best possible transition to daycare, THEY are doing the child a disservice by demanding "special".
The standard policy is "If your child has outgrown their nap, they have outgrown daycare." It really is that simple. Naptime is part of the daycare schedule, mandated by law in most places (here), it is not negotiable. If daycare is not right for their child then they need to make a different life decision.
wdmmom 07:29 AM 05-18-2011
I completely agree with Cat!
I don't take on DCK's that don't require a nap. ALL KIDS NAP! NO EXCEPTIONS!
And, if this girl in new, CIO is something that's bound to happen. Kids cry when put in different scenarios, circumstances, etc. I give it about 2 weeks for them to adjust. Sometimes it takes less, sometimes more. Each kid is different.
What it comes down to is: These parents want to pick up their kid, feed her dinner, give her a bath and throw her to bed. If she's exhausted from not napping at your house, it's less awake time they have to deal with her. It's the easy way out for them as parents.
Naps are mandated in most states. If it is in yours, give the kid a nap. If they haggle you about it, you are following state protocol.
I don't take on DCK's that don't require a nap. ALL KIDS NAP! NO EXCEPTIONS!
And, if this girl in new, CIO is something that's bound to happen. Kids cry when put in different scenarios, circumstances, etc. I give it about 2 weeks for them to adjust. Sometimes it takes less, sometimes more. Each kid is different.
What it comes down to is: These parents want to pick up their kid, feed her dinner, give her a bath and throw her to bed. If she's exhausted from not napping at your house, it's less awake time they have to deal with her. It's the easy way out for them as parents.
Naps are mandated in most states. If it is in yours, give the kid a nap. If they haggle you about it, you are following state protocol.
cheerfuldom 07:30 AM 05-18-2011
It sounds like you have been very clear on your expectations. Just do what you need to do, stop explaining yourself and if they have a problem with it then they can always leave. You are going to drive yourself crazy trying to accommodate ridiculous requests or trying to get a parent to see your side of things. Again, just put her down for a nap, let her cry if she needs that in order to fall asleep and don't feel that you have to give every detail to the parents. As long as she is happy and progressing there. Sometimes you can shoot yourself in the foot by volunteering info that will just be turned against you.
missnikki 07:35 AM 05-18-2011
If this is your only client, I think you could reason with them by saying "If she falls asleep, I won't wake her because she must need the rest, but I won't force her to sleep." Then CIO is not an issue.
momma4many 01:17 PM 05-18-2011
Thanks for the advice ladies 
When they picked her up today they said again that she has not been sleeping at home because of the naps here. I said again that she will be napping here, althought I will not force her to nap, if she gets tired, I won't wake her. He (dad) didn't seem too happy about it, so we'll see how it goes. Seems like since they have been bringing her, it has been one issue after another. Small ones, but still something every day. Guess I'm just going to have to get used to it and not offer any more info than is needed. 
When they picked her up today they said again that she has not been sleeping at home because of the naps here. I said again that she will be napping here, althought I will not force her to nap, if she gets tired, I won't wake her. He (dad) didn't seem too happy about it, so we'll see how it goes. Seems like since they have been bringing her, it has been one issue after another. Small ones, but still something every day. Guess I'm just going to have to get used to it and not offer any more info than is needed.
daycare 01:49 PM 05-18-2011
I would go as far as going on line and printing out how important sleep is to a child of this age. This way they can see children under 5 need at least 12-16 hours of sleep per 24 hour period. I can send you some stuff if you want..
nannyde 01:49 PM 05-18-2011
What you have are parents who want their child to go to bed as easy as possible and as early as possible. They want her to sleep as long as possible.
They are doing this because they don't want to be around her when she is awake. They know that having her awake is a lot harder than having her while she is sleeping. They are telling you what they KNOW works to have her sleeping as much as possible when she is with them.
At her age she should have two naps. An hour to an hour and a half in the morning and a two to two and a half hour nap in the afternoon. Even with those naps she should sleep a 10.5-12 hour night.
She is fussy and frentic because she is growing her brain and body with severe sleep deprivation. Adding daily tylenol to the mix is very hard on her little body. She should not be taking tylenol every day. It masks illness and is unnecessary. (I have done home child care for nearly 18 years and I have never once given Tylenol or advil for teething) The fussy inconsolable crying is toxic to her also.
They are just doing it wrong and you are on the front lines of dealing with their lack of knowledge and selfishness. You have to decide for yourself what you will and won't do for the money.
They are doing this because they don't want to be around her when she is awake. They know that having her awake is a lot harder than having her while she is sleeping. They are telling you what they KNOW works to have her sleeping as much as possible when she is with them.
At her age she should have two naps. An hour to an hour and a half in the morning and a two to two and a half hour nap in the afternoon. Even with those naps she should sleep a 10.5-12 hour night.
She is fussy and frentic because she is growing her brain and body with severe sleep deprivation. Adding daily tylenol to the mix is very hard on her little body. She should not be taking tylenol every day. It masks illness and is unnecessary. (I have done home child care for nearly 18 years and I have never once given Tylenol or advil for teething) The fussy inconsolable crying is toxic to her also.
They are just doing it wrong and you are on the front lines of dealing with their lack of knowledge and selfishness. You have to decide for yourself what you will and won't do for the money.
Live and Learn 02:03 PM 05-18-2011
1) I never give pain meds for teething. 7 years daycare, 17 years as parent.
2) Here she would go down for a nap from 9am to 11am....
And then again from 1pm to 3 pm.
She is probably cranky because she is exhausted.
I would cry it out and get her on a schedule. She will be much happier and so will you.
I would stop talking with the parents about negative things unless you want to lose this client. They are clearly lazy and the type of parent who just want you to deal with it and not inconvenience them with "your whining." They want to take her home, feed her, and have her drop to sleep from exhaustion.
2) Here she would go down for a nap from 9am to 11am....
And then again from 1pm to 3 pm.
She is probably cranky because she is exhausted.
I would cry it out and get her on a schedule. She will be much happier and so will you.
I would stop talking with the parents about negative things unless you want to lose this client. They are clearly lazy and the type of parent who just want you to deal with it and not inconvenience them with "your whining." They want to take her home, feed her, and have her drop to sleep from exhaustion.
PeanutsGalore 02:22 PM 05-18-2011
There's lots of good advice here. I just had to term a contract on a little one that I was advised to let go of earlier, but I waited because I needed the money and because I thought I could meet her needs. In the end, I couldn't. Sounds like you can meet the needs of this child just fine, but not the needs of the parents...and they don't count! (not in this context, anyway...). It also sounds like they feel YOU are working FOR them rather than with them while running your own business. If I were you, I'd get replacement clients as soon as possible and let these go. If htey want special treatment now, that's just going to get worse.
In the meanwhile, do what everyone else says to do and run your business the way you need to. Who cares if they decide to pop in unexpectedly? Not your problem. You've been up front with them, and if they don't like what they see, they can move along. Please don't worry youself about it, because allowing a child to nap is most certainly the best thing to do--for the child's sake!
Good luck!
In the meanwhile, do what everyone else says to do and run your business the way you need to. Who cares if they decide to pop in unexpectedly? Not your problem. You've been up front with them, and if they don't like what they see, they can move along. Please don't worry youself about it, because allowing a child to nap is most certainly the best thing to do--for the child's sake!
Good luck!
momma4many 03:20 PM 05-18-2011
Originally Posted by daycare:
I would go as far as going on line and printing out how important sleep is to a child of this age. This way they can see children under 5 need at least 12-16 hours of sleep per 24 hour period. I can send you some stuff if you want..
That would be awesome if you have the info! Thanks I would go as far as going on line and printing out how important sleep is to a child of this age. This way they can see children under 5 need at least 12-16 hours of sleep per 24 hour period. I can send you some stuff if you want..
daycare 03:22 PM 05-18-2011
I'll pm you some in about an hour. Kids just woke up!
I had a family that askEd me to allow their 2 year old to stay up and I Sid no way! Printed this stuff out and said thi I why.
I had a family that askEd me to allow their 2 year old to stay up and I Sid no way! Printed this stuff out and said thi I why.
Cat Herder 03:46 PM 05-18-2011
Originally Posted by nannyde:
She should not be taking Tylenol every day. It masks illness and is unnecessary. (I have done home child care for nearly 18 years and I have never once given Tylenol or Advil for teething) .
I agree with most of what you said, Tylenol builds up to toxic levels pretty quickly in the liver and the damage is irreversible.She should not be taking Tylenol every day. It masks illness and is unnecessary. (I have done home child care for nearly 18 years and I have never once given Tylenol or Advil for teething) .
I do, however, give Motrin for TRUE painful teething from time to time. I was feeling too sympathetic to teething today, I guess to have missed the "Tylenol EVERY DAY" part....
I actually gave motrin to a 14 month old today for teething. First time in a long while. He has a molar coming in and the gum is swollen, red, hot and miserable. There is even a bit of ulceration in it.
He keeps shoving two fingers into the back of his throat and biting as hard as he can, it keeps bleeding and I am afraid of infection/cross infection if he does not get a bit of relief for the next couple days. Not to mention he has triggered his gag reflex a couple times and was dry heaving.
I do look in their mouth myself to confirm
when I suspect it is ONLY teething since I already caught parent diagnosed "Teething" twice this year 
I rarely get sick, but the "bugs" seem to be getting stronger (or me weaker, you knows 
)Not every kid gets this bad with teething, but every now and again one really has a bad time with it.
Mom was on a end of year field trip with big brother today or I probably would have sent him home. "Big Brother" earned Honor Roll and wanted his Mom to himself for the day, I just did not have the heart to call Mom is taking DCB to the dentist in the AM.
momma4many 05:09 AM 05-19-2011
Well, as an update today...they sent her today with no bottles, pacifiers or her baby doll. All of which they said HAD to go back and forth b/c she could not live without them. I have not had her nap yet w/o them, so I'm thinking today will be interesting. Real nice too that as mom left, she said, "Good luck today" with a big smile. She was holding the diaper bag until she walked out the door and I didn't think to look in it to make sure she had everything. I think they did this intentionally so she wouldn't nap today. Real mature.
Cat Herder 05:21 AM 05-19-2011
Passive Aggressive
At least now you know how to give her her term notice if you get to that point. Tuck in bag, then hand it to her with a big grin as you shut the door. No, not really......
There has to be at least one adult in this relationship.
I don't allow any of that in their bed anyway, so it can be done. I promise.
Try the "full belly, box fan and white noise" trick.
Outdoor water play is always a sure fire deep sleep inducer as well....all that splashing and sunshine works every time.
At least now you know how to give her her term notice if you get to that point. Tuck in bag, then hand it to her with a big grin as you shut the door.
No, not really...... There has to be at least one adult in this relationship. I don't allow any of that in their bed anyway, so it can be done.
I promise.Try the "full belly, box fan and white noise" trick.
Outdoor water play is always a sure fire deep sleep inducer as well....all that splashing and sunshine works every time.
lil angels 05:30 AM 05-19-2011
Get an add in the paper and hang up as many fliers as you can and get another kid or 2 and get rid of the situation. WOW Lets make everyone miserable so that we don't have to be around our child at night.
momma4many 05:36 AM 05-19-2011
Originally Posted by Catherder:
Passive Aggressive
At least now you know how to give her her term notice if you get to that point. Tuck in bag, then hand it to her with a big grin as you shut the door. No, not really...... There has to be at least one adult in this relationship.
I don't allow any of that in their bed anyway, so it can be done. I promise.
Try the "full belly, box fan and white noise" trick.
Outdoor water play is always a sure fire deep sleep inducer as well....all that splashing and sunshine works every time.
Ha! Good idea about the term notice! Passive Aggressive
At least now you know how to give her her term notice if you get to that point. Tuck in bag, then hand it to her with a big grin as you shut the door.
No, not really...... There has to be at least one adult in this relationship. I don't allow any of that in their bed anyway, so it can be done.
I promise.Try the "full belly, box fan and white noise" trick.
Outdoor water play is always a sure fire deep sleep inducer as well....all that splashing and sunshine works every time.
I was thinking that about her nap anyway, that she should not have that in her bed w/ her, so this is probably a good thing. I don't know why I get so upset about these people! I just love dcg, but they drive me nuts! I sometimes think they do this passive agressive/always an issue crap b/c it gives them the illusion of having "control" over me and they don't feel as bad about leaving her here for 11 hours a day. Maybe I'm way off, but for some reason it makes sense LOL!!
nannyde 05:51 AM 05-19-2011
Originally Posted by Catherder:
I agree with most of what you said, Tylenol builds up to toxic levels pretty quickly in the liver and the damage is irreversible. I do, however, give Motrin for TRUE painful teething from time to time. I was feeling too sympathetic to teething today, I guess to have missed the "Tylenol EVERY DAY" part....
I actually gave motrin to a 14 month old today for teething. First time in a long while. He has a molar coming in and the gum is swollen, red, hot and miserable. There is even a bit of ulceration in it.
He keeps shoving two fingers into the back of his throat and biting as hard as he can, it keeps bleeding and I am afraid of infection/cross infection if he does not get a bit of relief for the next couple days. Not to mention he has triggered his gag reflex a couple times and was dry heaving.
I do look in their mouth myself to confirm when I suspect it is ONLY teething since I already caught parent diagnosed "Teething" twice this year I rarely get sick, but the "bugs" seem to be getting stronger (or me weaker, you knows )
Not every kid gets this bad with teething, but every now and again one really has a bad time with it. Mom was on a end of year field trip with big brother today or I probably would have sent him home. "Big Brother" earned Honor Roll and wanted his Mom to himself for the day, I just did not have the heart to call
Mom is taking DCB to the dentist in the AM.
I'm not saying there aren't some situations where a child would need advil or tylenol for teething pain. I'm just saying I have never had to give it to them. I would rather "I" give it to them here though then be told they have had it at home. The fact that this medicine masks fevers has to be weighed into its value. I agree with most of what you said, Tylenol builds up to toxic levels pretty quickly in the liver and the damage is irreversible.
I do, however, give Motrin for TRUE painful teething from time to time. I was feeling too sympathetic to teething today, I guess to have missed the "Tylenol EVERY DAY" part.... I actually gave motrin to a 14 month old today for teething. First time in a long while. He has a molar coming in and the gum is swollen, red, hot and miserable. There is even a bit of ulceration in it.
He keeps shoving two fingers into the back of his throat and biting as hard as he can, it keeps bleeding and I am afraid of infection/cross infection if he does not get a bit of relief for the next couple days. Not to mention he has triggered his gag reflex a couple times and was dry heaving.
I do look in their mouth myself to confirm
when I suspect it is ONLY teething since I already caught parent diagnosed "Teething" twice this year I rarely get sick, but the "bugs" seem to be getting stronger (or me weaker, you knows )Not every kid gets this bad with teething, but every now and again one really has a bad time with it.
Mom was on a end of year field trip with big brother today or I probably would have sent him home. "Big Brother" earned Honor Roll and wanted his Mom to himself for the day, I just did not have the heart to call Mom is taking DCB to the dentist in the AM.
Tylenol and Advil for teething is the gateway for most of the illness brought into child care for the birth to two crowd.
momma4many 02:37 PM 05-24-2011
Originally Posted by nannyde:
What you have are parents who want their child to go to bed as easy as possible and as early as possible.
BINGO! That's exactly what dcd said yesterday, although today mom was mad that she didn't nap well and was fussy when she picked her upThey want her to sleep as long as possible.
They are doing this because they don't want to be around her when she is awake. They know that having her awake is a lot harder than having her while she is sleeping. They are telling you what they KNOW works to have her sleeping as much as possible when she is with them.
At her age she should have two naps. An hour to an hour and a half in the morning and a two to two and a half hour nap in the afternoon. Even with those naps she should sleep a 10.5-12 hour night.
Ah, thank you! I was thinking the same thing!
She is fussy and frentic because she is growing her brain and body with severe sleep deprivation. Adding daily tylenol to the mix is very hard on her little body. She should not be taking tylenol every day. It masks illness and is unnecessary. (I have done home child care for nearly 18 years and I have never once given Tylenol or advil for teething) The fussy inconsolable crying is toxic to her also.
They are just doing it wrong and you are on the front lines of dealing with their lack of knowledge and selfishness. You have to decide for yourself what you will and won't do for the money.
Oh how I wish I didn't need the money so badly! There have been so many issues already with this family. Today was another doozie. Now they are wondering why I don't have any more kids besides their dd. I told them that I was interviewing, left it at that. The only thing this family has going for them is the fact that they pay 2 weeks ahead....I pray that soon I will not have to keep a family just b/c we need the money. Unfortunately, that's just not the case right now. What you have are parents who want their child to go to bed as easy as possible and as early as possible.
BINGO! That's exactly what dcd said yesterday, although today mom was mad that she didn't nap well and was fussy when she picked her up
They want her to sleep as long as possible. They are doing this because they don't want to be around her when she is awake. They know that having her awake is a lot harder than having her while she is sleeping. They are telling you what they KNOW works to have her sleeping as much as possible when she is with them.
At her age she should have two naps. An hour to an hour and a half in the morning and a two to two and a half hour nap in the afternoon. Even with those naps she should sleep a 10.5-12 hour night.
Ah, thank you! I was thinking the same thing!
She is fussy and frentic because she is growing her brain and body with severe sleep deprivation. Adding daily tylenol to the mix is very hard on her little body. She should not be taking tylenol every day. It masks illness and is unnecessary. (I have done home child care for nearly 18 years and I have never once given Tylenol or advil for teething) The fussy inconsolable crying is toxic to her also.
They are just doing it wrong and you are on the front lines of dealing with their lack of knowledge and selfishness. You have to decide for yourself what you will and won't do for the money.
Mom_of_two 06:14 AM 05-25-2011
UGG!!
Personally I will not accept families who are not comfortable with ALL of my policies, including nap. I do explain that not napping is not an option (at scheduled times unless younger than 4-5 months when we start to work on it) and I work with the kids (CIO) until they are able to nap as expected. Good luck. Keep us posted!!
Eta- just caught the part about the leaving items at home. I don't think I could work with this family. we should be allies with our families, not trying to made it hard (them)- those people sound off! Poor kid!
Personally I will not accept families who are not comfortable with ALL of my policies, including nap. I do explain that not napping is not an option (at scheduled times unless younger than 4-5 months when we start to work on it) and I work with the kids (CIO) until they are able to nap as expected. Good luck. Keep us posted!!
Eta- just caught the part about the leaving items at home. I don't think I could work with this family. we should be allies with our families, not trying to made it hard (them)- those people sound off! Poor kid!
momma4many 07:14 AM 05-25-2011
Originally Posted by Mom_of_two:
UGG!!
Personally I will not accept families who are not comfortable with ALL of my policies, including nap. I do explain that not napping is not an option (at scheduled times unless younger than 4-5 months when we start to work on it) and I work with the kids (CIO) until they are able to nap as expected. Good luck. Keep us posted!!
Eta- just caught the part about the leaving items at home. I don't think I could work with this family. we should be allies with our families, not trying to made it hard (them)- those people sound off! Poor kid!
Yes, every day I am seeing more and more that is just "off", but I've decided that I am just going to do my thing and let them leave if they don't like it. I told dcm this morning that she and dcd need to read over the hand book again since they have had a new issue every day and I also am getting conflicting info from both of them. I told her that the way I do things is very clearly spelled out in the hand book and I am not willing to change things. She did say that dcg loves it here and claps her hands every time they pull in the driveway, but that they were not happy with the fact that she screams and cries for me the whole way home UGG!!
Personally I will not accept families who are not comfortable with ALL of my policies, including nap. I do explain that not napping is not an option (at scheduled times unless younger than 4-5 months when we start to work on it) and I work with the kids (CIO) until they are able to nap as expected. Good luck. Keep us posted!!
Eta- just caught the part about the leaving items at home. I don't think I could work with this family. we should be allies with our families, not trying to made it hard (them)- those people sound off! Poor kid!
I just said, "Glad she likes it here" with a smile. I think they just have to say something negative or semi negative every day. It's like a compulsion, they can't help themselves....
daycare 01:51 PM 05-25-2011
Originally Posted by momma4many:
Yes, every day I am seeing more and more that is just "off", but I've decided that I am just going to do my thing and let them leave if they don't like it. I told dcm this morning that she and dcd need to read over the hand book again since they have had a new issue every day and I also am getting conflicting info from both of them. I told her that the way I do things is very clearly spelled out in the hand book and I am not willing to change things. She did say that dcg loves it here and claps her hands every time they pull in the driveway, but that they were not happy with the fact that she screams and cries for me the whole way home I just said, "Glad she likes it here" with a smile. I think they just have to say something negative or semi negative every day. It's like a compulsion, they can't help themselves....
sorry I never got you that PM it slipped my mind...here is something that I have put into my PHB. SOme from medical website and some from people on here... a mix of words..lolYes, every day I am seeing more and more that is just "off", but I've decided that I am just going to do my thing and let them leave if they don't like it. I told dcm this morning that she and dcd need to read over the hand book again since they have had a new issue every day and I also am getting conflicting info from both of them. I told her that the way I do things is very clearly spelled out in the hand book and I am not willing to change things. She did say that dcg loves it here and claps her hands every time they pull in the driveway, but that they were not happy with the fact that she screams and cries for me the whole way home
I just said, "Glad she likes it here" with a smile. I think they just have to say something negative or semi negative every day. It's like a compulsion, they can't help themselves....Napping Policy:
Crucial physical and mental development occurs in early childhood, and naps provide much-needed downtime for growth and rejuvenation. Naps also help keep kids from becoming overtired, which not only takes a toll on their moods but may also make it harder for them to fall asleep at night. Not to mention that it is a major requirement for good health.
Please keep in mind that the children have a very busy and active day here so they may require more sleep than you’re used to at home on the weekends. Children under 5 require an average of 12-13 hours of sleep for each 24 hour period. Children need to get enough sleep on a daily basis since sleep deprivation in children manifests as hyperactivity, restlessness, trouble settling and a general lack of control with their emotions.
From 1-3:30 all children will be required to set up a mat and nap in the resting area. Unfortunately, our program does not offer services to children who do not nap.
momma4many 02:22 PM 05-25-2011
Originally Posted by daycare:
sorry I never got you that PM it slipped my mind...here is something that I have put into my PHB. SOme from medical website and some from people on here... a mix of words..lol
Napping Policy:
Crucial physical and mental development occurs in early childhood, and naps provide much-needed downtime for growth and rejuvenation. Naps also help keep kids from becoming overtired, which not only takes a toll on their moods but may also make it harder for them to fall asleep at night. Not to mention that it is a major requirement for good health.
Please keep in mind that the children have a very busy and active day here so they may require more sleep than you’re used to at home on the weekends. Children under 5 require an average of 12-13 hours of sleep for each 24 hour period. Children need to get enough sleep on a daily basis since sleep deprivation in children manifests as hyperactivity, restlessness, trouble settling and a general lack of control with their emotions.
From 1-3:30 all children will be required to set up a mat and nap in the resting area. Unfortunately, our program does not offer services to children who do not nap.
That is a great way of wording it! Thanks for sharing. If you don't mind, can I reword that to put in my hand book? sorry I never got you that PM it slipped my mind...here is something that I have put into my PHB. SOme from medical website and some from people on here... a mix of words..lol
Napping Policy:
Crucial physical and mental development occurs in early childhood, and naps provide much-needed downtime for growth and rejuvenation. Naps also help keep kids from becoming overtired, which not only takes a toll on their moods but may also make it harder for them to fall asleep at night. Not to mention that it is a major requirement for good health.
Please keep in mind that the children have a very busy and active day here so they may require more sleep than you’re used to at home on the weekends. Children under 5 require an average of 12-13 hours of sleep for each 24 hour period. Children need to get enough sleep on a daily basis since sleep deprivation in children manifests as hyperactivity, restlessness, trouble settling and a general lack of control with their emotions.
From 1-3:30 all children will be required to set up a mat and nap in the resting area. Unfortunately, our program does not offer services to children who do not nap.
daycare 02:43 PM 05-25-2011
Originally Posted by momma4many:
That is a great way of wording it! Thanks for sharing. If you don't mind, can I reword that to put in my hand book?
of course...like I said i made mine from online research as well as some others from here that allowed me to use their policy too. I feel for you when you are trying to tell a parent something and they don't want to hear you. IT really sucks...That is a great way of wording it! Thanks for sharing. If you don't mind, can I reword that to put in my hand book?
I feel like saying if you don't trust my word and advice for your child than why am I caring for your child again......but I have never and would never...I have no backbone....lol