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WImom 06:23 AM 07-26-2013
How do you handle the dreaded...Do I have to pay during summer and breaks?
I have had teachers in the past but for some reason they have always been 4year olds so they just ended care in June.
I do want to charge during breaks but I understand summer not wanting to pay- Should I charge a 2 week tuition that is used the following September but nonrefundable if they leave? Should I charge a small fee to hold spot? How would you do it?
I have had teachers in the past but for some reason they have always been 4year olds so they just ended care in June.
I do want to charge during breaks but I understand summer not wanting to pay- Should I charge a 2 week tuition that is used the following September but nonrefundable if they leave? Should I charge a small fee to hold spot? How would you do it?
Familycare71 06:33 AM 07-26-2013
I like having summers light so I welcome teachers... I have found that if I charged them a holding fee they go else where. I always charge a two week deposit to be used for the two weeks they return to care.
When I did try to charge a two day a week min for the summer they always ended up bringing their kids those two days or not continuing/starting care.
It really depends I think on if you need the income in the summer or prefer having it off.
When I did try to charge a two day a week min for the summer they always ended up bringing their kids those two days or not continuing/starting care.
It really depends I think on if you need the income in the summer or prefer having it off.
Blackcat31 06:34 AM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by WImom:
How do you handle the dreaded...Do I have to pay during summer and breaks?
I have had teachers in the past but for some reason they have always been 4year olds so they just ended care in June.
I do want to charge during breaks but I understand summer not wanting to pay- Should I charge a 2 week tuition that is used the following September but nonrefundable if they leave? Should I charge a small fee to hold spot? How would you do it?
When I get asked "Do I have to pay during summer and breaks?" I say that I have several options available for teachers. How do you handle the dreaded...Do I have to pay during summer and breaks?
I have had teachers in the past but for some reason they have always been 4year olds so they just ended care in June.
I do want to charge during breaks but I understand summer not wanting to pay- Should I charge a 2 week tuition that is used the following September but nonrefundable if they leave? Should I charge a small fee to hold spot? How would you do it?
The options are:
#1 Yearly rate divided by 9 months, paid monthly. (NO attendance in summer)
This takes what they would pay over a 12 month period and instead of paying your normal weekly rate, they pay that plus a little extra.
(I save that extra and "pay" myself all summer.)
#2 One lump sum to hold their space. (NO attendance permitted without additional payment)
For example if your normally weekly rate is $150 or approx. $600 per month, I would charge them $450 for the month and enjoy the lighter work load for a little less money
#3 Attend a minimum of 3 days per week (if over 2 yrs old) and a minimum of 2 days a week (if under 2 yrs old) to hold their space.
I enjoy the lighter work load in the summer so I am willing to negotiate a bit for summer rates.
The last several years I have done nothing but straight payment 52 weeks a year but I am finding that as I age, I am a lot more willing to take a slight pay cut and not deal with the child at all for a few weeks/months plus I really enjoy the outside time in the summer months and having a lighter load of children enables us to do some things we don't normally do.
As for school breaks and holidays, that's on them. I already offer a flexible payment plan for summer, what more do they want?
I have paid holidays already and the few teacher workshops and such that there are, most my teachers work or bring their kids anyways so that has never been an issue.
HTH
Familycare71 06:36 AM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
When I get asked "Do I have to pay during summer and breaks?" I say that I have several options available for teachers.
The options are:
#1 Yearly rate divided by 9 months, paid monthly. (NO attendance in summer)
This takes what they would pay over a 12 month period and instead of paying your normal weekly rate, they pay that plus a little extra.
(I save that extra and "pay" myself all summer.)
#2 One lump sum to hold their space. (NO attendance permitted without additional payment)
For example if your normally weekly rate is $150 or approx. $600 per month, I would charge them $450 for the month and enjoy the lighter work load for a little less money
#3 Attend a minimum of 3 days per week (if over 2 yrs old) and a minimum of 2 days a week (if under 2 yrs old) to hold their space.
I enjoy the lighter work load in the summer so I am willing to negotiate a bit for summer rates.
The last several years I have done nothing but straight payment 52 weeks a year but I am finding that as I age, I am a lot more willing to take a slight pay cut and not deal with the child at all for a few weeks/months plus I really enjoy the outside time in the summer months and having a lighter load of children enables us to do some things we don't normally do.
As for school breaks and holidays, that's on them. I already offer a flexible payment plan for summer, what more do they want?
I have paid holidays already and the few teacher workshops and such that there are, most my teachers work or bring their kids anyways so that has never been an issue.
HTH
Great ideas!!! Blackcat- I love learning from you When I get asked "Do I have to pay during summer and breaks?" I say that I have several options available for teachers.
The options are:
#1 Yearly rate divided by 9 months, paid monthly. (NO attendance in summer)
This takes what they would pay over a 12 month period and instead of paying your normal weekly rate, they pay that plus a little extra.
(I save that extra and "pay" myself all summer.)
#2 One lump sum to hold their space. (NO attendance permitted without additional payment)
For example if your normally weekly rate is $150 or approx. $600 per month, I would charge them $450 for the month and enjoy the lighter work load for a little less money
#3 Attend a minimum of 3 days per week (if over 2 yrs old) and a minimum of 2 days a week (if under 2 yrs old) to hold their space.
I enjoy the lighter work load in the summer so I am willing to negotiate a bit for summer rates.
The last several years I have done nothing but straight payment 52 weeks a year but I am finding that as I age, I am a lot more willing to take a slight pay cut and not deal with the child at all for a few weeks/months plus I really enjoy the outside time in the summer months and having a lighter load of children enables us to do some things we don't normally do.
As for school breaks and holidays, that's on them. I already offer a flexible payment plan for summer, what more do they want?
I have paid holidays already and the few teacher workshops and such that there are, most my teachers work or bring their kids anyways so that has never been an issue.
HTH
Unregistered 06:48 AM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by WImom:
How do you handle the dreaded...Do I have to pay during summer and breaks?
I have had teachers in the past but for some reason they have always been 4year olds so they just ended care in June.
I do want to charge during breaks but I understand summer not wanting to pay- Should I charge a 2 week tuition that is used the following September but nonrefundable if they leave? Should I charge a small fee to hold spot? How would you do it?
Reply with "do you GET paid during summer break when YOU are not at school?". Of course they do. Tell them that if they don't want to pay over summer, you can take your yearly tuition and spread it over 9 months instead of 12 for them.How do you handle the dreaded...Do I have to pay during summer and breaks?
I have had teachers in the past but for some reason they have always been 4year olds so they just ended care in June.
I do want to charge during breaks but I understand summer not wanting to pay- Should I charge a 2 week tuition that is used the following September but nonrefundable if they leave? Should I charge a small fee to hold spot? How would you do it?
Unregistered 06:51 AM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
Reply with "do you GET paid during summer break when YOU are not at school?". Of course they do. Tell them that if they don't want to pay over summer, you can take your yearly tuition and spread it over 9 months instead of 12 for them.
I would charge full tuition or I would tell them that you will try to fill their slot if they choose not to pay. I tell parents that they can consider me salaried and earning overtime. I have a minimum that applies just to have the slot. If their kids are not here, they pay if they want to keep the slot. I remind them that they get paid when they take vacation or sick time, and I do, as well.Reply with "do you GET paid during summer break when YOU are not at school?". Of course they do. Tell them that if they don't want to pay over summer, you can take your yearly tuition and spread it over 9 months instead of 12 for them.
Familycare71 06:53 AM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
Reply with "do you GET paid during summer break when YOU are not at school?". Of course they do. Tell them that if they don't want to pay over summer, you can take your yearly tuition and spread it over 9 months instead of 12 for them.
Teachers do not get paid over the summer.Reply with "do you GET paid during summer break when YOU are not at school?". Of course they do. Tell them that if they don't want to pay over summer, you can take your yearly tuition and spread it over 9 months instead of 12 for them.
CedarCreek 07:00 AM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by Christie71:
Teachers do not get paid over the summer.
Actually, it's a choice for them. They can either get the higher pay during the year and no pay for the summer or choose to spread their payments out. At least around here that's how it goes.Teachers do not get paid over the summer.
Me personally, I offered half pay and they could come two days a week but I won't do that next summer. I will offer half pay but just to hold their spot. If they attend at all,I still expect full pay.
snbauser 07:03 AM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by Christie71:
Teachers do not get paid over the summer.
Depends on the teacher and the school. Many teachers get the option of being paid more for 9 months or less for 12 months.Teachers do not get paid over the summer.
I cater to teacher and school employees. I like getting more time with my own kids when they are out of school. So I offer a 3 day/week program in the summer (Mon-Wed) that allows parents to send their kids and get stuff done without them and holds their spots for the fall, am closed when school is closed except for teacher workdays. My parents pay for all days I am open and closed except for what our schools call Annual Leave Days. These are days that are used to extend breaks. Like at Thanksgiving, Wed is an Annual Leave Day and Thursday and Friday are holidays. So I am closed all 3 days and get paid for Thursday and Friday.
Familycare71 07:07 AM 07-26-2013
In NY teachers don't get paid-
I like the extra time too! I still provide care for the full timers but appreciate if I get a lighter load
I like the extra time too! I still provide care for the full timers but appreciate if I get a lighter load
EchoMom 07:13 AM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by Christie71:
Teachers do not get paid over the summer.
Not to split hairs but teachers do not get paid FOR the summer. Teacher's get paid a salary based on the job. The job is 9 months long (although lots of planning happens in the summer too) and that is what the salary is based on. If teaching were 12 months long, the salary would have to be greater to compensate for the extra work time.Teachers do not get paid over the summer.
So teachers may choose to receive all their money during the year, or spread it out over the summer. But it's not money for doing nothing, it's the money the earned during the year just spread out.
I think this is what was being said already, just clarifying.
OP:
It depends upon if you NEED the teacher's family income or not. If you're desperate then charge nothing for the summer and you'll get the family. However, if you're willing to loose them then charge some type of minimum.
I tell teachers that they must agree to a 2 day a week minimum AND attend during the summer. As for the school year, they get 2 weeks of free vacation time. Others I say they get 2 weeks per calendar year. For teacher's I say 2 weeks per school year. So they can have one free week at christmas and one free for spring break.
I do lose some families over the 2 day minimum, but that's ok. Some agree and have signed up no problem. I want the child to actually ATTEND those 2 days though, because I like to keep the relationships going and familiarity.
I don't think I could charge any more than that in my area or I wouldn't get any teachers at all. But I also have learned not to do ZERO anymore. I also am careful not to take on too many teacher's families as I can't afford to lose that much every summer.
wahmof3 07:17 AM 07-26-2013
I have ALL teachers DCKs currently and for going on 6 weeks I have been WITHOUT income. I didn't plan on not having any kids this summer and then lost 3 part time DCKs.
No money in my savings AND HOLDING SPOTS for DCFs that I am not sure if they are returning.
Yeah, I am a completely at fault, but teachers around here would be outraged if they had to pay during the summer months.
It would be a totally different story if I had planned on not having any DCFs this summer.
I do, however, LOVE having a summer with MY kids, but heck I struggle to get to the grocery store.
I can care for 6 kids and I would love to take the income from that "6th" DCK and put that in a savings. Trouble is I will be playing "catch up" for a while after school starts.
I haven't figured out how to handle summer.
I do have teacher DCFs pay 50% for breaks and all school closing/holidays.
Wanted to add that I do not offer free "sick" days for teachers kids either.
No money in my savings AND HOLDING SPOTS for DCFs that I am not sure if they are returning.
Yeah, I am a completely at fault, but teachers around here would be outraged if they had to pay during the summer months.
It would be a totally different story if I had planned on not having any DCFs this summer.
I do, however, LOVE having a summer with MY kids, but heck I struggle to get to the grocery store.
I can care for 6 kids and I would love to take the income from that "6th" DCK and put that in a savings. Trouble is I will be playing "catch up" for a while after school starts.
I haven't figured out how to handle summer.
I do have teacher DCFs pay 50% for breaks and all school closing/holidays.
Wanted to add that I do not offer free "sick" days for teachers kids either.
MsLaura529 07:26 AM 07-26-2013
BC - I LOVE the yearly rate divided into 9 months, great idea!! I'll have to use that in the future.
I JUST enrolled a teacher family, 19 month old boy will be coming 4 days a week. They agreed to pay a 1-2 day a week rate through the summer, he would come those days. I told them it would depend on what other kids I have during the summer and what their schedules are as to whether it will be 1 or 2 days. Breaks they said wouldn't be a problem, and he would be coming then anyways.
I JUST enrolled a teacher family, 19 month old boy will be coming 4 days a week. They agreed to pay a 1-2 day a week rate through the summer, he would come those days. I told them it would depend on what other kids I have during the summer and what their schedules are as to whether it will be 1 or 2 days. Breaks they said wouldn't be a problem, and he would be coming then anyways.
itlw8 07:29 AM 07-26-2013
They do not get paid for summer unless they take their salary split over 12 months but it is still the same amount total
Mine come 2x a week set days. but I will do a 2 week deposit . I have learned to set the return date and a contact date. 2 weeks before teachers have to report they must contact me to confirm place or I will fill it.
Mine come 2x a week set days. but I will do a 2 week deposit . I have learned to set the return date and a contact date. 2 weeks before teachers have to report they must contact me to confirm place or I will fill it.
kathiemarie 07:30 AM 07-26-2013
I have teachers pay a 2 week non-refundable fee to hold their spot. Around May I ask what will be their last day of care for the school year will be and what will be the first day of care in the fall.
This summer as been hard $$ wise because we traveled a lot last year and I didn't save like I should have but usually it works out fine.
This summer as been hard $$ wise because we traveled a lot last year and I didn't save like I should have but usually it works out fine.
mamac 09:35 AM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
When I get asked "Do I have to pay during summer and breaks?" I say that I have several options available for teachers.
The options are:
#1 Yearly rate divided by 9 months, paid monthly. (NO attendance in summer)
This takes what they would pay over a 12 month period and instead of paying your normal weekly rate, they pay that plus a little extra.
(I save that extra and "pay" myself all summer.)
#2 One lump sum to hold their space. (NO attendance permitted without additional payment)
For example if your normally weekly rate is $150 or approx. $600 per month, I would charge them $450 for the month and enjoy the lighter work load for a little less money
#3 Attend a minimum of 3 days per week (if over 2 yrs old) and a minimum of 2 days a week (if under 2 yrs old) to hold their space.
I enjoy the lighter work load in the summer so I am willing to negotiate a bit for summer rates.
The last several years I have done nothing but straight payment 52 weeks a year but I am finding that as I age, I am a lot more willing to take a slight pay cut and not deal with the child at all for a few weeks/months plus I really enjoy the outside time in the summer months and having a lighter load of children enables us to do some things we don't normally do.
As for school breaks and holidays, that's on them. I already offer a flexible payment plan for summer, what more do they want?
I have paid holidays already and the few teacher workshops and such that there are, most my teachers work or bring their kids anyways so that has never been an issue.
HTH
Do you allow them to drop down to a regular PT rate (set days or varied) if they choose option 3 or do you charge as a drop-in rate?When I get asked "Do I have to pay during summer and breaks?" I say that I have several options available for teachers.
The options are:
#1 Yearly rate divided by 9 months, paid monthly. (NO attendance in summer)
This takes what they would pay over a 12 month period and instead of paying your normal weekly rate, they pay that plus a little extra.
(I save that extra and "pay" myself all summer.)
#2 One lump sum to hold their space. (NO attendance permitted without additional payment)
For example if your normally weekly rate is $150 or approx. $600 per month, I would charge them $450 for the month and enjoy the lighter work load for a little less money
#3 Attend a minimum of 3 days per week (if over 2 yrs old) and a minimum of 2 days a week (if under 2 yrs old) to hold their space.
I enjoy the lighter work load in the summer so I am willing to negotiate a bit for summer rates.
The last several years I have done nothing but straight payment 52 weeks a year but I am finding that as I age, I am a lot more willing to take a slight pay cut and not deal with the child at all for a few weeks/months plus I really enjoy the outside time in the summer months and having a lighter load of children enables us to do some things we don't normally do.
As for school breaks and holidays, that's on them. I already offer a flexible payment plan for summer, what more do they want?
I have paid holidays already and the few teacher workshops and such that there are, most my teachers work or bring their kids anyways so that has never been an issue.
HTH
Also, which option do they choose most often? Does anyone have an issue with option 2 where they want to stay a day here or there and have to pay more that the monthly fee? At what rate do you charge for the extra time? Drop-in, PT, or pro-rated based on their regular rate?
Blackcat31 09:39 AM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by mamac:
Do you allow them to drop down to a regular PT rate (set days or varied) if they choose option 3 or do you charge as a drop-in rate?
If they choose option #3 and attend 3 days per week, the rate is the same as I would charge anyone else using 3 days per week. Do you allow them to drop down to a regular PT rate (set days or varied) if they choose option 3 or do you charge as a drop-in rate?
Varying days each week is billed at a little bit of a higher rate than a set 3 days per week.
Once summer is over and they resume their normally 5 days a week attendance, their rate goes back to the regular full time rate they had before.
I only charge drop in rates for ADDITIONAL days or for those families that choose the partial payment to hold their space with NO attendance (Option #2).
mamac 10:03 AM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
If they choose option #3 and attend 3 days per week, the rate is the same as I would charge anyone else using 3 days per week.
Varying days each week is billed at a little bit of a higher rate than a set 3 days per week.
Once summer is over and they resume their normally 5 days a week attendance, their rate goes back to the regular full time rate they had before.
I only charge drop in rates for ADDITIONAL days or for those families that choose the partial payment to hold their space with NO attendance (Option #2).
Ok. We're on the same page then. I gave the same option to my first teacher dcm. After pondering what she would do while dcb was with me 3 days a week she decided she'd just get a pt job! lol.If they choose option #3 and attend 3 days per week, the rate is the same as I would charge anyone else using 3 days per week.
Varying days each week is billed at a little bit of a higher rate than a set 3 days per week.
Once summer is over and they resume their normally 5 days a week attendance, their rate goes back to the regular full time rate they had before.
I only charge drop in rates for ADDITIONAL days or for those families that choose the partial payment to hold their space with NO attendance (Option #2).
I do like the idea of a smaller one lump sum option with no work though, especially after having this whole summer of with my boys. I'm not sure I'll want to work another summer again!
Unregistered 10:37 AM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by Christie71:
Teachers do not get paid over the summer.
My sister, the teacher, gets paid over the summer. She gets paid once a month every month of the year. Her salary is spread over the year. Perhaps they are given a choice about it, perhaps it is union negotiated for her area, but 12 checks per year.Teachers do not get paid over the summer.
Familycare71 01:15 PM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by EchoMom:
Not to split hairs but teachers do not get paid FOR the summer. Teacher's get paid a salary based on the job. The job is 9 months long (although lots of planning happens in the summer too) and that is what the salary is based on. If teaching were 12 months long, the salary would have to be greater to compensate for the extra work time.
So teachers may choose to receive all their money during the year, or spread it out over the summer. But it's not money for doing nothing, it's the money the earned during the year just spread out.
I think this is what was being said .
This was my over all point Not to split hairs but teachers do not get paid FOR the summer. Teacher's get paid a salary based on the job. The job is 9 months long (although lots of planning happens in the summer too) and that is what the salary is based on. If teaching were 12 months long, the salary would have to be greater to compensate for the extra work time.
So teachers may choose to receive all their money during the year, or spread it out over the summer. But it's not money for doing nothing, it's the money the earned during the year just spread out.
I think this is what was being said .
. And no teacher I know gets paid over the summer months- but either way it is the same amount total...
sharlan 01:42 PM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by CedarCreek:
Actually, it's a choice for them. They can either get the higher pay during the year and no pay for the summer or choose to spread their payments out. At least around here that's how it goes.
Me personally, I offered half pay and they could come two days a week but I won't do that next summer. I will offer half pay but just to hold their spot. If they attend at all,I still expect full pay.
Some districts do that, others don't.Actually, it's a choice for them. They can either get the higher pay during the year and no pay for the summer or choose to spread their payments out. At least around here that's how it goes.
Me personally, I offered half pay and they could come two days a week but I won't do that next summer. I will offer half pay but just to hold their spot. If they attend at all,I still expect full pay.
I liked the lighter load so I always welcomed teachers. I never guaranteed them a space come fall unless I had the kids part-time during the summer.
CedarCreek 02:53 PM 07-26-2013
Originally Posted by sharlan:
Some districts do that, others don't.
I liked the lighter load so I always welcomed teachers. I never guaranteed them a space come fall unless I had the kids part-time during the summer.
That's why I said " around here that's how it goes" Some districts do that, others don't.
I liked the lighter load so I always welcomed teachers. I never guaranteed them a space come fall unless I had the kids part-time during the summer.
MissAnn 03:40 PM 07-26-2013
Why should we feel we don't deserve to be paid over the summer because they aren't paid for summer? If we are comparing our pay with theirs, we should be getting medical and dental.
I have teachers pay 2 days/week to reserve their spot.
I have teachers pay 2 days/week to reserve their spot.
e.j. 05:15 PM 07-26-2013
If they want their spot to be guaranteed in the fall, they pay their regular rate during the summer to hold it. If they would rather not pay for the summer and risk the possibility that their child's spot will be filled over the summer, I'm willing to take them back in the fall if I have an opening. If I can fill their spot temporarily with someone who needs summer care only, I'm also willing to do that as long as the hours of care are comparable. Most who sign on with me choose to continue to pay for their spot and be guaranteed care in the fall. Based on their comments to me, they like having kid-free time to themselves to get yard work, housework, errands, etc... done.
Josiegirl 04:49 PM 07-27-2013
The rare times I've had a teachers' child, I never charged during the summer because I was always full with schoolagers coming back anyways.
If you don't usually take schoolagers, I like the idea of dividing up the 12 month rate into 9 months.
If you don't usually take schoolagers, I like the idea of dividing up the 12 month rate into 9 months.
dbslas 05:06 PM 07-27-2013
We charge 1/2 rate during the summer for our teachers to hold the spot, and they may bring the child up to 4 hours each day (set times only - and we know in advance) If they want to bring the child over 4 hours, then we break down their full weekly rate to a daily rate and they pay the difference. The teacher we have now brings her child 2-3 half days a week so that she can get things done at home and also to keep her child in a routine and around other children. It has worked out very well.
EntropyControlSpecialist 07:26 PM 07-27-2013
I will not charge a teacher less for the summer. If they pull and I fill their spot, then that is that.
momma2girls 10:56 AM 07-29-2013
Originally Posted by Familycare71:
I like having summers light so I welcome teachers... I have found that if I charged them a holding fee they go else where. I always charge a two week deposit to be used for the two weeks they return to care.
When I did try to charge a two day a week min for the summer they always ended up bringing their kids those two days or not continuing/starting care.
It really depends I think on if you need the income in the summer or prefer having it off.
I charge 2 weeks to hold their spot during the summer also.I like having summers light so I welcome teachers... I have found that if I charged them a holding fee they go else where. I always charge a two week deposit to be used for the two weeks they return to care.
When I did try to charge a two day a week min for the summer they always ended up bringing their kids those two days or not continuing/starting care.
It really depends I think on if you need the income in the summer or prefer having it off.
Crazy8 11:50 AM 07-29-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
When I get asked "Do I have to pay during summer and breaks?" I say that I have several options available for teachers.
The options are:
#1 Yearly rate divided by 9 months, paid monthly. (NO attendance in summer)
This takes what they would pay over a 12 month period and instead of paying your normal weekly rate, they pay that plus a little extra.
(I save that extra and "pay" myself all summer.)
#2 One lump sum to hold their space. (NO attendance permitted without additional payment)
For example if your normally weekly rate is $150 or approx. $600 per month, I would charge them $450 for the month and enjoy the lighter work load for a little less money
#3 Attend a minimum of 3 days per week (if over 2 yrs old) and a minimum of 2 days a week (if under 2 yrs old) to hold their space.
I enjoy the lighter work load in the summer so I am willing to negotiate a bit for summer rates.
The last several years I have done nothing but straight payment 52 weeks a year but I am finding that as I age, I am a lot more willing to take a slight pay cut and not deal with the child at all for a few weeks/months plus I really enjoy the outside time in the summer months and having a lighter load of children enables us to do some things we don't normally do.
As for school breaks and holidays, that's on them. I already offer a flexible payment plan for summer, what more do they want?
I have paid holidays already and the few teacher workshops and such that there are, most my teachers work or bring their kids anyways so that has never been an issue.
HTH
I like your options!! I expected you to just say they have to pay regardless. When I get asked "Do I have to pay during summer and breaks?" I say that I have several options available for teachers.
The options are:
#1 Yearly rate divided by 9 months, paid monthly. (NO attendance in summer)
This takes what they would pay over a 12 month period and instead of paying your normal weekly rate, they pay that plus a little extra.
(I save that extra and "pay" myself all summer.)
#2 One lump sum to hold their space. (NO attendance permitted without additional payment)
For example if your normally weekly rate is $150 or approx. $600 per month, I would charge them $450 for the month and enjoy the lighter work load for a little less money
#3 Attend a minimum of 3 days per week (if over 2 yrs old) and a minimum of 2 days a week (if under 2 yrs old) to hold their space.
I enjoy the lighter work load in the summer so I am willing to negotiate a bit for summer rates.
The last several years I have done nothing but straight payment 52 weeks a year but I am finding that as I age, I am a lot more willing to take a slight pay cut and not deal with the child at all for a few weeks/months plus I really enjoy the outside time in the summer months and having a lighter load of children enables us to do some things we don't normally do.
As for school breaks and holidays, that's on them. I already offer a flexible payment plan for summer, what more do they want?
I have paid holidays already and the few teacher workshops and such that there are, most my teachers work or bring their kids anyways so that has never been an issue.
HTH
Like you, I like the lighter work load in the summers now as my kids get older, etc. It used to be all about the income but now I'd rather have the lighter load than the extra money (although its rather tight right now, LOL).
I offer the same as I do for maternity leave - 1/3rd rate OR care equal or greater than. I thought having a child come 1-2 days a week would be a nightmare but it hasn't been - they are all happy to come see their friends after a few days at home!
Blackcat31 12:06 PM 07-29-2013
Originally Posted by Crazy8:
I like your options!! I expected you to just say they have to pay regardless.
Like you, I like the lighter work load in the summers now as my kids get older, etc. It used to be all about the income but now I'd rather have the lighter load than the extra money (although its rather tight right now, LOL).
I offer the same as I do for maternity leave - 1/3rd rate OR care equal or greater than. I thought having a child come 1-2 days a week would be a nightmare but it hasn't been - they are all happy to come see their friends after a few days at home!
LOL! That's my rule for maternity leaves though..... When enrolling a new baby, there is no lighter load so in that case, they get a discounted week for older sibling so family can bond but other than that the space (for the infant) is paid for regardless of when they use it. I like your options!! I expected you to just say they have to pay regardless.
Like you, I like the lighter work load in the summers now as my kids get older, etc. It used to be all about the income but now I'd rather have the lighter load than the extra money (although its rather tight right now, LOL).
I offer the same as I do for maternity leave - 1/3rd rate OR care equal or greater than. I thought having a child come 1-2 days a week would be a nightmare but it hasn't been - they are all happy to come see their friends after a few days at home!
I can't afford to do 6 weeks of maternity leave....kwim?
I can for the infant but not the older sibling and I only take infants of families I already have in care.
LaLa1923 10:45 PM 09-21-2013
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
When I get asked "Do I have to pay during summer and breaks?" I say that I have several options available for teachers.
The options are:
#1 Yearly rate divided by 9 months, paid monthly. (NO attendance in summer)
This takes what they would pay over a 12 month period and instead of paying your normal weekly rate, they pay that plus a little extra.
(I save that extra and "pay" myself all summer.)
#2 One lump sum to hold their space. (NO attendance permitted without additional payment)
For example if your normally weekly rate is $150 or approx. $600 per month, I would charge them $450 for the month and enjoy the lighter work load for a little less money
#3 Attend a minimum of 3 days per week (if over 2 yrs old) and a minimum of 2 days a week (if under 2 yrs old) to hold their space.
I enjoy the lighter work load in the summer so I am willing to negotiate a bit for summer rates.
The last several years I have done nothing but straight payment 52 weeks a year but I am finding that as I age, I am a lot more willing to take a slight pay cut and not deal with the child at all for a few weeks/months plus I really enjoy the outside time in the summer months and having a lighter load of children enables us to do some things we don't normally do.
As for school breaks and holidays, that's on them. I already offer a flexible payment plan for summer, what more do they want?
I have paid holidays already and the few teacher workshops and such that there are, most my teachers work or bring their kids anyways so that has never been an issue.
HTH
When I get asked "Do I have to pay during summer and breaks?" I say that I have several options available for teachers.
The options are:
#1 Yearly rate divided by 9 months, paid monthly. (NO attendance in summer)
This takes what they would pay over a 12 month period and instead of paying your normal weekly rate, they pay that plus a little extra.
(I save that extra and "pay" myself all summer.)
#2 One lump sum to hold their space. (NO attendance permitted without additional payment)
For example if your normally weekly rate is $150 or approx. $600 per month, I would charge them $450 for the month and enjoy the lighter work load for a little less money
#3 Attend a minimum of 3 days per week (if over 2 yrs old) and a minimum of 2 days a week (if under 2 yrs old) to hold their space.
I enjoy the lighter work load in the summer so I am willing to negotiate a bit for summer rates.
The last several years I have done nothing but straight payment 52 weeks a year but I am finding that as I age, I am a lot more willing to take a slight pay cut and not deal with the child at all for a few weeks/months plus I really enjoy the outside time in the summer months and having a lighter load of children enables us to do some things we don't normally do.
As for school breaks and holidays, that's on them. I already offer a flexible payment plan for summer, what more do they want?
I have paid holidays already and the few teacher workshops and such that there are, most my teachers work or bring their kids anyways so that has never been an issue.
HTH
I really like this! I doubt any families around here would go for option #1.
If you end up getting paid with option1 why don't they get to bring their child?
SSWonders 02:09 PM 09-22-2013
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
Reply with "do you GET paid during summer break when YOU are not at school?". Of course they do. Tell them that if they don't want to pay over summer, you can take your yearly tuition and spread it over 9 months instead of 12 for them.
Technically, they don't. My husband is a teacher. He gets paid for a certain number of days. He can choose to spread that amount out over the summer if he wants to. But that is in effect paying him for time that he has already worked.Reply with "do you GET paid during summer break when YOU are not at school?". Of course they do. Tell them that if they don't want to pay over summer, you can take your yearly tuition and spread it over 9 months instead of 12 for them.
Jack Sprat 12:17 PM 09-23-2013
When I taught I had my salary divided among the 12 months. Then I got a check during the summer months and worked part-time at a camp.
My teacher policy is that you pay half of your weekly rate to hold your full time spot for the fall. I do not charge for days I take off ever and they do not pay Thanksgiving, Christmas, Spring breaks as long as I know 2 weeks in advance that the child will not be here. That way I will be able to have the SA kids come that need care.
My teacher policy is that you pay half of your weekly rate to hold your full time spot for the fall. I do not charge for days I take off ever and they do not pay Thanksgiving, Christmas, Spring breaks as long as I know 2 weeks in advance that the child will not be here. That way I will be able to have the SA kids come that need care.