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OWATMNPARENT 07:17 PM 10-05-2010
I am so disgusted with our ex daycare provider! I found out that she was forcing lemon juice down my sons and daughters mouth because they were crying. My son who is 6yrs said another kid pushed him outside and he fell and hit his head on the concrete, he went inside crying from the pain and she forcefully put lemon juice down his throat! My daughter said she did this to her more than once. My daughter who is 3yrs old starts to cry because she misses her brother who just started school. So she would punish her by forcing lemon juice down her throat for crying. Both kids said she would forcefully push their foreheads back and open their mouths with and spuirt it in. My daughter complained about her stomach hurting. My daughter also said she pulled her hair more than once. When she was confronted she said it was probally another kid that is going thru a hair pulling stage. My daughters exact word were "she pulled my hair and didn't even say she was sorry". I believe my daughter 100%! My son was left unattended downstairs while the other kids were sleeping. He got into some paint and got it on himself and their couch. He said she came down stairs and seen what he did and hit him in the back of the head. I know what he did was wrong but why was he left alone in a room with paint in it? Who in their right mind thinks it's ok to force a substance down a childs mouth as a punishment for crying? She did not ask for permission to do this! I ended her services when I confronted her and she admitted it. I asked for all of the kids belongings and she forgot to give me their blankets. My lawyer said not to pay and she couldn't with hold our belongings. So the police said they would escort me there to get them. When I called her she said I could have them back when she gets her 3 days payment. When I told her the police would escort me to get them she said she had already threw them away! She obviously never cared for the kids if she just threw them away. I can not believe an adult let alone a liscensed daycare provider would do such things. And to think we were paying for such services! I AM COMPLETELY DISGUSTED!!!!!
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BentleysBands 04:53 AM 10-06-2010
wow! i'm appalled ! if she is licensed you need to report her!! get things in writing!! you can do something!! good luck!
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MN Mom 06:01 AM 10-06-2010
Owatonna,

I'm just south of you 30 miles. I am so sorry to hear this! It makes me recall my days as a kid with an abusive day care provider. If you need to talk, I can PM you my phone number.

So very sorry, my prayers are with you and your family.

~MN Mom
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Jewels 06:28 AM 10-06-2010
OMG, this is so disgusting it makes me want to cry, report her right away, she needs to be shut down! If you can find any other parents who are bringing their kids their, tell them to get their kids out, even if you have to hang by there in the morning or afternoon and confront other parents, I would want to know this if I were still bringing my kids their, that is so horrible its rediculous!
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AfterSchoolMom 06:38 AM 10-06-2010
I agree, this person needs to be reported. Is she licensed? This is a situation where it is definitely appropriate to report, IMO. So sorry your children had to go through that.
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MyAngels 06:42 AM 10-06-2010
Originally Posted by Jewels:
If you can find any other parents who are bringing their kids their, tell them to get their kids out, even if you have to hang by there in the morning or afternoon and confront other parents, I would want to know this if I were still bringing my kids their, that is so horrible its rediculous!
While I agree that this is exactly what I would want to do, you should be careful and talk with your attorney first, you could potentially open yourself up to some liability (I'm thinking slander charges).
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tenderhearts 08:08 AM 10-06-2010
That's terrible, I'm so sorry your children suffered through that. I definetly would report her but I agree with the previous post about consulting an attorney. Good luck...
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Unregistered 08:28 AM 10-06-2010
AGh! There has been a lot of weird stuff going on in daycare in MN. There are two near me that have been shut down for abuse. I am in MN too...

You do need to file a report....
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momofsix 11:10 AM 10-06-2010
So sorry your children (and you) are having to go through this. Absalutely disgusting and horrible. Please make sure you do as the others said and report her and warn other parents as soon as you can!
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MN Mom 11:42 AM 10-06-2010
Because of this post, I have decided to take my old day care family back. Mom has to go back to work part time, and I couldn't stand the idea of them going somewhere else and something like this happening. I've been thru abuse in a day care setting as a child...it has long term effects. At least with me, I know those kids will be safe.
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MommyMuffin 02:04 PM 10-06-2010
That is awful, I cannot imagine going through that! I am so glad that you got your children out and have a lawyer.
When I was a child my daycare provider never hit me but she would lock us out of the house during the younger kids nap times and it got really hot out there sometimes and I would get really thirsty. I also remember being hungry all the time.
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Unregistered 06:35 PM 10-06-2010
Thanks everyone! I just can't believe how slow the system works. I understand if there's more xtremme cases to deal with but I just hate waiting. The part that still throws me for a loop is that she thinks she did nothing wrong and her lemon juice punishment is an ok method that she heard about from other daycare providers. She is definitely in her own little world! My lawyer said to wait and see how the county handles it. My lawyer said she would be very surprised if she doesn't get her license revoked. I am just anxiously waiting.
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Jewels 07:03 AM 10-07-2010
Lemon juice ok........thats just mean and unnecessary, If their crying over nothing, and it gets to them, they should put them in a pack n play, where they are out direct ear shot, but safe.........so sad. I bet those providers don't give that information in their interviews.....I hope she gets shut down
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Crystal 08:32 AM 10-07-2010
I think it would be very hard for me to maintain my self-control and that provider would be experiencing something getting shoved down her throat......
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DCMom 08:52 AM 10-07-2010
There are not words to express the anger that I would have toward this woman if this was my child. This is the type of provider that gives us all a bad name.
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SilverSabre25 09:55 AM 10-07-2010
My first thought is that would not have worked on my husband because he LOVES lemon juice, straight out of the bottle or lemon!

My second thought is about how horrible it is that some people think that's okay to do to their own children let alone to someone else's.

And my third thought is WTH is she doing in child care if she can't stand crying to the extent that she thinks shoving something nasty down the child's throat is going to STOP the crying? OMG, that's just awful!!
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Unregistered 04:01 PM 10-24-2010
Just an fyi that depending on the state you live in, yes, you may be required to report any violation or complaint within 24 hours of incident. Couldn't believe my eyes when I read our state's licensing laws. I can't imagine why this is other than to protect the DCP. That's outrageous and hoping that there are exceptions to that sudo statute of limitations in our state. It takes me more than 24 hours just to find out what really happened during incidents with my DCP - between interviewing other parents, etc. If it was my kid that lemon juice would have happened to, I would have called licensing plus the police and I would have called the other parents at that daycare. Obviously, I would have pulled him immediately, too. I think I would have called social services too besides the state, just as as a cya. And I would have contacted my local newspaper and asked them to cover a story on the allegations - just so the public was informed of what she did so they don't send their kids there just in case the state only slaps her hand. Good luck to you - I hope they throw the book at her!
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missnikki 03:16 PM 10-25-2010
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
Just an fyi that depending on the state you live in, yes, you may be required to report any violation or complaint within 24 hours of incident. Couldn't believe my eyes when I read our state's licensing laws. I can't imagine why this is other than to protect the DCP. That's outrageous and hoping that there are exceptions to that sudo statute of limitations in our state. It takes me more than 24 hours just to find out what really happened during incidents with my DCP - between interviewing other parents, etc. If it was my kid that lemon juice would have happened to, I would have called licensing plus the police and I would have called the other parents at that daycare. Obviously, I would have pulled him immediately, too. I think I would have called social services too besides the state, just as as a cya. And I would have contacted my local newspaper and asked them to cover a story on the allegations - just so the public was informed of what she did so they don't send their kids there just in case the state only slaps her hand. Good luck to you - I hope they throw the book at her!
I believe it is within 24 hours of learning of the incident.
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Abigail 12:42 AM 11-01-2010
Write your thoughts down...
Honestly, you should be able to take her to court and get money for putting your son in danger (left alone AND around harmful substances...paint --unless it's fingerpaint, lol) and damaging your items (tossing out the blankets) and abuse (trying to control crying with lemon juice) and probably many many more things. I would really look into it! No child should go through that. Since the court system is slow, make sure you write everything down on paper. Talk to your children about it and make sure your story is straight. Hope everything works out.
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Unregistered 02:12 PM 12-03-2010
YOU ARE ONLY HEARING ONE SIDE OF THE STORY.

It is not okay to pass judgement.
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Unregistered 06:10 PM 12-03-2010
I agree with the last reply....you are only hearing one side of the story.
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Unregistered 06:15 PM 12-03-2010
Agreed.....don't pass judgement on people when you only know one side of the story.
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MN Mom 08:05 PM 12-03-2010
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
YOU ARE ONLY HEARING ONE SIDE OF THE STORY.

It is not okay to pass judgement.
Then, by all means, give us the other half?

Hard not to judge when you only have one side of the story...though I don't know what could be possibly said on the other side to defend these actions against a child.
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jen 06:58 PM 12-04-2010
Weird...I want to hear the other side of this one too!

I'm also curious if there is an update? Did licensing step in? If this is true, I would think that the provider would be shut down.
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Unregistered 11:59 AM 12-06-2010
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
YOU ARE ONLY HEARING ONE SIDE OF THE STORY.

It is not okay to pass judgement.
Even if I knew the other side of the story, it isn't my story to tell. I just know there are always two sides to a story.

I do know for a fact that she is still has a fully operational daycare with many happy parents.
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jen 02:14 PM 12-06-2010
Hmmm...either the op is lying, which is always a possibility or she didn't report it. Lots of people are happily attending a daycare that sucks--they just don't know it yet.
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Michael 03:09 PM 12-06-2010
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
Even if I knew the other side of the story, it isn't my story to tell. I just know there are always two sides to a story.

I do know for a fact that she is still has a fully operational daycare with many happy parents.
Interesting. This poster is not the original but in the same area. I am going to email OWATMNPARENT and request that she signs in and replies.
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