Daycare.com Forum
Daycare Center and Family Home Forum>Unions and state payments
jokalima 06:27 AM 08-15-2014
I would like to know if any of you a part of a Union? Are you forced to be part of it?
It has been approved that here in my state us providers can be part of a union. I am not to happy about it and I really don't want to be part of it. I don't feel like I need it or that it will change anything for me. I know someone that works really close to this and that person told me that letters have been sent and the info. in them is not a good one for many providers.
The agency, where my friend works, they give trainings to home providers. The union said that in order for providers to recieve payments from Care 4 Kids, they have to take the training, even those providers that already took it like myself. I took it about a year ago. Not only that, she also told me that in order to be able to get payments from C4K we have to become members of the Union.
I don't like to be forced to do things against my will and it really feels that way right now. Not only that, she told me that they sent letters to parents as well telling them that if their providers don't take the trainings they must change providers in order to recieve help with day care payments.
They got us a "raise" but it's just minimun. If we have to become part of the union that "raise" is going to cover union fees. The lady from the union that came to visit me told me that if I become a member and then decide not to be a member any more I would still have to pay union fees
Someone here has any experience with this?
It has been approved that here in my state us providers can be part of a union. I am not to happy about it and I really don't want to be part of it. I don't feel like I need it or that it will change anything for me. I know someone that works really close to this and that person told me that letters have been sent and the info. in them is not a good one for many providers.
The agency, where my friend works, they give trainings to home providers. The union said that in order for providers to recieve payments from Care 4 Kids, they have to take the training, even those providers that already took it like myself. I took it about a year ago. Not only that, she also told me that in order to be able to get payments from C4K we have to become members of the Union.
I don't like to be forced to do things against my will and it really feels that way right now. Not only that, she told me that they sent letters to parents as well telling them that if their providers don't take the trainings they must change providers in order to recieve help with day care payments.
They got us a "raise" but it's just minimun. If we have to become part of the union that "raise" is going to cover union fees. The lady from the union that came to visit me told me that if I become a member and then decide not to be a member any more I would still have to pay union fees
Someone here has any experience with this?
Wubby 06:52 AM 08-15-2014
In Oregon, anyone taking state paid kids get $35 taken out of their check. This has been going on for years, but I did just read there was a case in another state that fought it and won. You might google it.
Blackcat31 07:12 AM 08-15-2014
Our state just won the right to say no to unions and fair share fees being deducted from state paid subsidy payments.
"Monday’s Harris v Quinn ruling appears to set a legal precedent prohibiting public employee unions from charging compulsory fair share fees from child-care providers or personal care assistants in Minnesota and across the country."
http://www.childcareunioninfo.com/index.html
Here is the Harris v Quinn ruling http://www.supremecourt.gov/harrisvquinn
"Monday’s Harris v Quinn ruling appears to set a legal precedent prohibiting public employee unions from charging compulsory fair share fees from child-care providers or personal care assistants in Minnesota and across the country."
http://www.childcareunioninfo.com/index.html
Here is the Harris v Quinn ruling http://www.supremecourt.gov/harrisvquinn
jokalima 08:05 AM 08-15-2014
That's interesting. Thanks for sharing. I guess I'll have to wait until we receive the letter tomorrow and see what the reaction will be. My contact says she knows first hand most providers are not going to be thrilled about it. She works directly with providers bit she has to maintain neutral about it. Let's see, cause I really don't have a good feeling about this.
Second Home 08:57 AM 08-15-2014
In MD if you have state paid kids you are forced to be part of the union . For those who do not it is optional . And truth be told this( plus the stars program) is the reason I will not accept state paid kids .
SignMeUp 09:54 AM 08-15-2014
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Child...81095595292446
That's the facebook page for a group of providers working against unionization. There is info about Harris vs Quinn if you read back through the statuses, and a lot of info on their website too. I think this is theirs: http://www.childcareunioninfo.com/
If I remember correctly, they have information from many different states, court cases, etc.
They are on the forefront of this issue, clearly from one side only though - so if you are looking for pro-union information, you will want to balance it with information from elsewhere. They tend to be Republican-oriented, and also sometimes they make religious statements, just so you know that. It's totally possible to read for content though, and leave behind any parts that you don't believe come into play in this issue. I believe their information is solid. Some of these providers are involved in some of the court cases.
That's the facebook page for a group of providers working against unionization. There is info about Harris vs Quinn if you read back through the statuses, and a lot of info on their website too. I think this is theirs: http://www.childcareunioninfo.com/
If I remember correctly, they have information from many different states, court cases, etc.
They are on the forefront of this issue, clearly from one side only though - so if you are looking for pro-union information, you will want to balance it with information from elsewhere. They tend to be Republican-oriented, and also sometimes they make religious statements, just so you know that. It's totally possible to read for content though, and leave behind any parts that you don't believe come into play in this issue. I believe their information is solid. Some of these providers are involved in some of the court cases.
Luvnmykidz 04:47 PM 08-16-2014
Originally Posted by Second Home:
In MD if you have state paid kids you are forced to be part of the union . For those who do not it is optional . And truth be told this( plus the stars program) is the reason I will not accept state paid kids .
I'm in MD. PG County to be exact. Can you post or pm me the info or where to find it in regards to the stars program, the union and having state paid kids please. I opened this year and have had several calls for state paid, not really sure how it works or what I'm supposed to do, or if I even want to take it. Thank youIn MD if you have state paid kids you are forced to be part of the union . For those who do not it is optional . And truth be told this( plus the stars program) is the reason I will not accept state paid kids .
itlw8 12:12 PM 08-15-2014
do some research pretty sure they can not do that. providers in one of the Midwest states... not sure which one got a ruling from the supreme court this summer. It was IL Harris v. Quinn found it they can not force you to pay dues if you do not join because you are not an employee