Daycare.com Forum Daycare Forum

Go Back   Daycare.com Forum > Main Category > Daycare Center and Family Home Forum

Daycare Center and Family Home Forum Daycare Center and Family Home owners, Directors, Operators and Assistants should post and ask questions here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-26-2017, 09:11 AM
BJR1986's Avatar
BJR1986 BJR1986 is offline
Daycare.com Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3
Default Desperate For Answers/Sensitive Accusation Question

Hi all, I am a little desperate for some insight on behalf of my mother, any input is VERY MUCH appreciated.

My mother has been a daycare teacher in Illinois for over 15 years, she's never been accused of any type of mistreatment or anything like that before and actually has great personal friendships with many of the parents of former students of hers. She is director qualified, etc.

I'll try to keep the rest of the story somewhat vague, but please keep reading...

Recently, my mother was seen on camera making movements that made her look like she was moving around the room angrily (although she says she was actually just moving around quickly), but when she moved something on the floor it inadvertently caused a child to slip and bump their head. This child didn't cry or anything which is why my mother didn't even know it had happened (although a small bruise did show up after a few days), but on the security tape (which is dark and hard to see), it appears as if my mom intentionally did this to hurt the child.

My mom has been terminated from this position and accepts responsibility, but she is terrified that this will be taken farther than her just not being able to work in childcare anymore. Does anyone know what happens next? Will police be involved or just DCFS? Will they allow her to tell her side of the story before charging her? Please, someone give us an idea of what to expect. Thank you so much for any input. And please don't think that anyone including my mother is trying to downplay any of this, but being accused of child abuse is obviously a serious thing.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-26-2017, 09:17 AM
Blackcat31's Avatar
Blackcat31 Blackcat31 is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 19,760
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BJR1986 View Post
Hi all, I am a little desperate for some insight on behalf of my mother, any input is VERY MUCH appreciated.

My mother has been a daycare teacher in Illinois for over 15 years, she's never been accused of any type of mistreatment or anything like that before and actually has great personal friendships with many of the parents of former students of hers. She is director qualified, etc.

I'll try to keep the rest of the story somewhat vague, but please keep reading...

Recently, my mother was seen on camera making movements that made her look like she was moving around the room angrily (although she says she was actually just moving around quickly), but when she moved something on the floor it inadvertently caused a child to slip and bump their head. This child didn't cry or anything which is why my mother didn't even know it had happened (although a small bruise did show up after a few days), but on the security tape (which is dark and hard to see), it appears as if my mom intentionally did this to hurt the child.

My mom has been terminated from this position and accepts responsibility, but she is terrified that this will be taken farther than her just not being able to work in childcare anymore. Does anyone know what happens next? Will police be involved or just DCFS? Will they allow her to tell her side of the story before charging her? Please, someone give us an idea of what to expect. Thank you so much for any input. And please don't think that anyone including my mother is trying to downplay any of this, but being accused of child abuse is obviously a serious thing.
I am sorry your mother is having trouble.

Her experience is exactly why so many are against video cameras.

I don't have any advice to offer other than to maybe contact an attorney simply so she can be prepared for anything that may come of this.

I am not familiar with procedures in Illinois so I am unsure of how they handle these types of things. I assume there is a method for both licensing AND for the individual employer or company she worked for.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-26-2017, 09:26 AM
trix23's Avatar
trix23 trix23 is offline
New Daycare.com Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 525
Default

Did she work at a center or our of her home?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-26-2017, 09:31 AM
BJR1986's Avatar
BJR1986 BJR1986 is offline
Daycare.com Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3
Default

It was a fairly new daycare center, just opened earlier this year. The owner has a home daycare background, but all employees/director have previous center experience.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-26-2017, 09:35 AM
MyAngels's Avatar
MyAngels MyAngels is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,152
Default

I'm fairly certain that DCFS will conduct an investigation first, then if for some reason they felt it necessary they would refer it to law enforcement for criminal charges. I'm no expert though, so my best advice would be to consult an attorney with experience in this type of thing so you can be prepared for whatever comes next.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-26-2017, 09:43 AM
trix23's Avatar
trix23 trix23 is offline
New Daycare.com Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 525
Default

There have been times where I've bumped a child accidentally and they fell down or they have tripped over my feet while sitting. Sometimes they get a bump from it. But I'm very forthright with reporting it and filling out an Incident Report.

I would start off showing that she notifies parents of injuries and make copies of any reports she's made in her time there to establish a history of reporting. That's a good first step.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-26-2017, 10:36 AM
Ariana's Avatar
Ariana Ariana is offline
Advanced Daycare.com Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 8,970
Default

100% consult a lawyer asap. This way if the cops do come to her door she will know what to say and do. Saying or doing the wrong thing could put her in prison.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-26-2017, 12:02 PM
Mom2Two's Avatar
Mom2Two Mom2Two is offline
Daycare.com Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: U. S. A.
Posts: 1,851
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariana View Post
100% consult a lawyer asap. This way if the cops do come to her door she will know what to say and do. Saying or doing the wrong thing could put her in prison.
ITA I would consider getting an attorney experienced in this area. It's amazing what a difference a good attorney can make.

I'm not thinking about her going to prison, just getting the charges dropped. Even help knowing how to plea down could make a difference if there were actual charges. Also help in handling her rights during any investigation.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-26-2017, 12:16 PM
BJR1986's Avatar
BJR1986 BJR1986 is offline
Daycare.com Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3
Default

Thank you all for your replies, I will pass along your suggestions and advise her to seek an attorney. As you can imagine, my mom is beside herself, but the hardest part is not knowing what to expect. You guys are awesome!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-27-2017, 07:09 AM
284878's Avatar
284878 284878 is offline
Day Care Owner
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Next door
Posts: 2,190
Default

You could check with Tom Copeland, He may have some advice or a recommendation of an attorney in your area.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-27-2017, 07:33 AM
daycarediva's Avatar
daycarediva daycarediva is offline
Daycare.com Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 11,543
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackcat31 View Post
I am sorry your mother is having trouble.

Her experience is exactly why so many are against video cameras.

I don't have any advice to offer other than to maybe contact an attorney simply so she can be prepared for anything that may come of this.

I am not familiar with procedures in Illinois so I am unsure of how they handle these types of things. I assume there is a method for both licensing AND for the individual employer or company she worked for.
YES, I would never work somewhere with video cameras because of the chance of interpretation. The point of view is HUGE and without multiple angles, there is too much liability.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariana View Post
100% consult a lawyer asap. This way if the cops do come to her door she will know what to say and do. Saying or doing the wrong thing could put her in prison.
this, I'm sorry your mom is going through this.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
child abuse, dcfs, illinois

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Partial Week Question CityGarden Daycare Center and Family Home Forum 8 03-28-2017 01:47 PM
Daycare Non-Payment Question blueskiesbutterflies Daycare Center and Family Home Forum 6 11-17-2014 11:43 AM
Question With A Bit Of A Rant, But Circling Back To The Question! MaritimeMummy Daycare Center and Family Home Forum 14 09-25-2012 01:29 PM
Dumbest Question Of The Year.... Countrygal Daycare Center and Family Home Forum 14 09-01-2012 06:08 AM
Non-DC Question...Desperately Need Some Advice.. SunflowerMama Daycare Center and Family Home Forum 18 05-06-2010 05:29 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:52 AM.



Daycare.com         Find A Daycare         List Your Daycare         Toys & Products                 About Us

Daycare.com
Please read our Disclaimer before continuing.

Topics pertain mainly to the following States:

Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas California Colorado Connecticut Delaware District of Columbia Florida Georgia Hawaii Idaho Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia Washington West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming