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Old 02-12-2017, 04:08 AM
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Our state has lost 91 providers but 40 new ones have opened. People are wondering what the new rules are that are making people leave the profession. I can understand why they're questioning but I don't think they understand how the state can be either. One provider was noted as saying 'it's for the safety and better care of the children' which makes me feel like if we don't like the rules, we're not concerned about the care we give our children. Tell me, how does noting every single trip to the bathroom or diaper change noted throughout the day signify better care? To me, it's taking up more valuable time away from kids. And that's just one small example of more documentation added. I've been changing diapers for 36 yrs. And now they tell me I'm not doing it right? Again, a small thing but to change a deep-seated routine like that, times 2, 3, 4 infants....the time taken adds up.
And we all know how much extra time we all have in our days.

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Old 02-12-2017, 07:03 AM
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Tell me, how does noting every single trip to the bathroom or diaper change noted throughout the day signify better care? To me, it's taking up more valuable time away from kids.

I'd be one of those that quits, if this would to become mandatory in my State
I would really like to know how some of the regulations come to be....
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Old 02-12-2017, 09:28 AM
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Our state has lost 91 providers but 40 new ones have opened. People are wondering what the new rules are that are making people leave the profession. I can understand why they're questioning but I don't think they understand how the state can be either. One provider was noted as saying 'it's for the safety and better care of the children' which makes me feel like if we don't like the rules, we're not concerned about the care we give our children. Tell me, how does noting every single trip to the bathroom or diaper change noted throughout the day signify better care? To me, it's taking up more valuable time away from kids. And that's just one small example of more documentation added. I've been changing diapers for 36 yrs. And now they tell me I'm not doing it right? Again, a small thing but to change a deep-seated routine like that, times 2, 3, 4 infants....the time taken adds up.
And we all know how much extra time we all have in our days.

*sigh* Just a Sunday morning vent.
We've lost more than 15 in my city in the last 5-6 months. I know of 3 that have opened, but one of those has already closed. I was just inspected by the state office last week (annual inspection) and the inspector told me that many have closed all over the state because of the new rules (implemented because of federal regulations). I seriously considered it, myself. I already am stretched thin, and now I have more planning and paperwork to do.
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Old 02-12-2017, 10:16 AM
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I'm starting to believe that the State wants us (home daycare) to get frustrated and quit.
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Old 02-12-2017, 12:26 PM
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I'm starting to believe that the State wants us (home daycare) to get frustrated and quit.
Maybe they think that by making home cares close, more centers will open.
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Old 02-12-2017, 01:08 PM
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I'm starting to believe that the State wants us (home daycare) to get frustrated and quit.
That is the ultimate goal....To do away with Family Child Care altogether. Makes me sad!
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Old 02-12-2017, 03:26 PM
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That is the ultimate goal....To do away with Family Child Care altogether. Makes me sad!
I firmly believe this is true even though the state keeps saying 'no no that's not it at all'.
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Old 02-12-2017, 04:57 PM
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That is the ultimate goal....To do away with Family Child Care altogether. Makes me sad!
Same here in Canada. The problem is they cannot afford to take the kids we take care of so it will be a looooong time before they can take us out!

In my City alone, licensed childcare centres only service 12% of the children. Guess who cares for the other 88%??
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Old 02-12-2017, 05:19 PM
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It's truly sad because there are still families who want the smaller family environment, especially when their children are 3-4 and under.
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Old 02-12-2017, 05:32 PM
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I firmly believe this is true even though the state keeps saying 'no no that's not it at all'.
My state is one of the frontrunners with the QRIS movement and when I read many posts on here from other states where QRIS is creeping in I wish I could express how this movement is causing the FCC profession to become extinct. It is bigger and deeper than anyone realizes and is so subtle coming in that it takes over before providers can blink.
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Old 02-12-2017, 05:54 PM
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It's truly sad because there are still families who want the smaller family environment, especially when their children are 3-4 and under.
Agreed! They need to support us more instead of vilifying us. Especialky those of us operating legal unlicensed daycares.
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Old 02-12-2017, 08:40 PM
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This makes me sad. I live in a small town, and if it wasn't for in home daycares there would not be enough providers for all the children. Our center is small, privately owned, and the only one in town. The big centers are not going to move into a town of 1,000 people, so if the in homes close, where will people find care? It is definitely a profession where we all need each other.
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This makes me sad. I live in a small town, and if it wasn't for in home daycares there would not be enough providers for all the children. Our center is small, privately owned, and the only one in town. The big centers are not going to move into a town of 1,000 people, so if the in homes close, where will people find care? It is definitely a profession where we all need each other.
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If the government ever did decide to end home daycares, that just means there will be no such thing as legal home daycares. There would just be more illegal ones.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:17 PM
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If the government ever did decide to end home daycares, that just means there will be no such thing as legal home daycares. There would just be more illegal ones.
You are right. And that makes it safer for the children. (Sarcasm font in use).
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:21 PM
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I firmly believe this is true even though the state keeps saying 'no no that's not it at all'.
I agree.
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Old 02-13-2017, 04:36 PM
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I totally understand what you're saying. Every time we speak up to say a reg doesn't make sense we are regarded as not caring about children when in fact we're just not butt-kissers who go along with everything and try to add a little common sense into the equation. It doesn't matter what studies we bring up. It doesn't matter if we can show that it doesn't make sense, isn't doable or takes away from ACTUAL high quality care.
It happens to teachers as well. If they want more pay or disagree with a new method they must not care about the children and they must be money hungry. Apparently anyone that works with children should do it for free/cheap because they love children and keep their mouth closed.
I spent about 6 hours this weekend doing homework to finish my BA in ECE and then spent another 14 hours on new trainings we have to do because of the new federal regs. Then I got groceries and cleaned the house for daycare on Monday. Not having any down time or me time does not help me be a better provider come Monday, it does the opposite. The training is worthless and stuff that anyone with common sense should know BUT it's mandated because unfortunately common sense isn't a requirement to become a provider. Can I just please test out of how to sanitize and disinfect and can I opt out if safe sleep, transportation and giving medication since I don't take infants and don't transport or administer meds? No, instead I get to waste my weekend. Sure I could have done it a little at a time over the month but then it's constantly on my "to-do" list stressing me out.
In my state we have the option to be unregistered which means no training, no unannounced or announced visits etc. and only one less child (but no one ever checks how many children you have and they basically do nothing if you're not in compliance) so guess how many providers just went unregistered with the new regs?
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Old 02-13-2017, 04:40 PM
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To add, one of the suggestions that they act like is a regulation in the mandated new training I took said we should have signs on every piece of outdoor equiptmebt to show which ages can play on them. I take care of littkes that can't read! As you can tell I'm frustrated lol. Oh well there's always next weekend.
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Old 02-13-2017, 05:00 PM
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To add, one of the suggestions that they act like is a regulation in the mandated new training I took said we should have signs on every piece of outdoor equiptmebt to show which ages can play on them. I take care of littkes that can't read! As you can tell I'm frustrated lol. Oh well there's always next weekend.
I totally get this... I use to live on the Iowa/IL border & considered living on the Iowa side for a short time. Back in 2008 Licensing couldn't even tell me if they would approve my EPA, hospital grade , plant based disinfectant... needless to say, even then I would have stayed license exempt had I moved there instead of back to AR because nobody in the "office" had common sense
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:49 AM
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I'm not sure who they're creating all these ridiculous rules for either. If the parents want to know if their child pooped, we definitely have that conversation. And really, why all the 'over the top' disinfecting/sanitizing?? How will kids' immune systems ever get stronger if we're trying to wipe away every germ?
And signs on every piece of equipment??? WTH? There must be many people sitting in their offices who ran out of things to do.
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Old 02-14-2017, 04:18 AM
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If the government ever did decide to end home daycares, that just means there will be no such thing as legal home daycares. There would just be more illegal ones.
When the regs say things like "in order to use the bathroom, ideally the ASSISTANT should be placed in charge of the children. If that's not possible, then the provider needs to blal, blah, blah." It tells me they want the single, in home provider model done with.
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When the regs say things like "in order to use the bathroom, ideally the ASSISTANT should be placed in charge of the children. If that's not possible, then the provider needs to blal, blah, blah." It tells me they want the single, in home provider model done with.
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