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DaycareMama 10:13 AM 05-09-2013
I'm not looking to start a debate about what's best
But I am learning more and more about the crap that's in our foods and it seriously scares me! I have a pretty large group ( 12) daily and I can not afford to go totally organic.

In your opinions what's the top 3 things you wouldn't buy if its not organic?
Like I said I am new to this so please share why?!

I am on the food program and follow their guidelines.
I am currently making meals at the meal times and think it would definitely be a lot healthier to pre-make a lot of the stuff. Especially the "meats" I am ALWAYS running out of ideas for the meat option that the kids will eat.
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MamaBearCanada 10:18 AM 05-09-2013
Apples, spinach, berries

However, I try to get most of the Dirty Dozen organic. Here's a link that gives a brief explanation.
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DaycareMama 10:47 AM 05-09-2013
I just yesterday read about the Dirty Dozen. I was blown away! You think your doing something good buying fresh fruit but....WOW!
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MrsSteinel'sHouse 11:08 AM 05-09-2013
Another suggestion is to go to your local farmers market and talk with them. A lot of ours us organic methods but aren't certified. I buy from them as much as possible. Doing the CSA thing this year from the farmer I love. I also planted strawberries and veggies so I know. I order from a coop so I get better prices. I buy bulk items not trendy organic stuff. So flour, oats, rice, real salt etc. all of my stuff for childcare kids is not organic but the best I can do and what I can find in small town, no trader joes etc.
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LK5kids 04:11 AM 05-11-2013
I would add organic milk and yogurt.
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Willow 07:06 AM 05-11-2013
I spring for organic if it's something we'll be eating the peels and skin of...berries, any kind of salad like romaine or spinach, apples, grapes etc.

Aside from that my focus is just as much if not more so on avoiding all refined sugars and as much processed foods as I can too. While my group is generally pretty even keeled I couldn't believe the changes I saw when I cut back and then ultimately eliminated everything with refined sugar, white flour and crap loads of artificial colors and preservatives.

I think doing both go hand in hand.
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DaycareMama 07:25 AM 05-11-2013
These are all great changes/advice. Thanks! making my shopping plan today. I wish I could motivate myself to cook ahead ....cook the main part of the meals on Sunday. I know in the long run that change alone would skew a huge difference. Wold seriously cut down on the processed end.
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AmyKidsCo 07:49 AM 05-11-2013
We've been incorporating more organic food into our family & the day are for several years. We started with just a few things, then when our budget absorbed the extra cost we added a few more.

I would start with the things you eat most often. For us that was apples, tomato products and "grains" (pasta, cereal, crackers, etc). Thick skinned fruits & veggies we buy non-organic.

The thing is, as you eat more organic your palate will change and you'll taste the difference between organic and non-organic. To me it's like those Claritin commercials where you think the picture is clear until they lift the film away. Organic food has a "clearer" taste to me.

Just remember that even a little is better than none.
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MrsSteinel'sHouse 09:14 AM 05-11-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
I spring for organic if it's something we'll be eating the peels and skin of...berries, any kind of salad like romaine or spinach, apples, grapes etc.

Aside from that my focus is just as much if not more so on avoiding all refined sugars and as much processed foods as I can too. While my group is generally pretty even keeled I couldn't believe the changes I saw when I cut back and then ultimately eliminated everything with refined sugar, white flour and crap loads of artificial colors and preservatives.

I think doing both go hand in hand.
I totally agree!
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daycarediva 12:15 PM 05-11-2013
Originally Posted by Willow:
I spring for organic if it's something we'll be eating the peels and skin of...berries, any kind of salad like romaine or spinach, apples, grapes etc.

Aside from that my focus is just as much if not more so on avoiding all refined sugars and as much processed foods as I can too. While my group is generally pretty even keeled I couldn't believe the changes I saw when I cut back and then ultimately eliminated everything with refined sugar, white flour and crap loads of artificial colors and preservatives.

I think doing both go hand in hand.
This, always the dirty dozen organic, and I buy organic milk, cheese, yogurt and meat.
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Cradle2crayons 03:44 PM 05-11-2013
I don't do a lot of store bought organic. But my family has a business and they have several gardens year around and fresh chickens... They even slaughter their chickens themselves. So that takes care of almost all veggies... Even onions, cabbage, lettuce, potatoes etc I get from them. In the summer I put up the summer only veggies like peas, beams, corn, tomatoes, peppers, and the list goes on and on.

As far as other meats, there's a local older guy who raises and slaughters his own... I get pork and sausage etc from him as well as beef.

The ONLY thing I have to buy organic is ground beef. Oh gosh it tastes so so much better than non organic.

As far as fruits, I buy those at the local farmers market. My family's garden doesn't grow fruits.
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Play Care 07:59 AM 05-13-2013
Like others I try to buy the "dirty dozen" organic. But I feel it's more important to buy *locally grown* than organic for the most part. Like another poster, many of the guys at my local farmer's market grow their produce organically but have not jumped through the hoops to get certified. Definitely something to look into!
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AmyLeigh 01:13 PM 05-13-2013
Originally Posted by AmyKidsCo:
We've been incorporating more organic food into our family & the day are for several years. We started with just a few things, then when our budget absorbed the extra cost we added a few more.

I would start with the things you eat most often. For us that was apples, tomato products and "grains" (pasta, cereal, crackers, etc). Thick skinned fruits & veggies we buy non-organic.

The thing is, as you eat more organic your palate will change and you'll taste the difference between organic and non-organic. To me it's like those Claritin commercials where you think the picture is clear until they lift the film away. Organic food has a "clearer" taste to me.
Just remember that even a little is better than none.



That is by far the best way to explain the flavor of organics! I'm going to steal that, if you don't mind.
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AmyKidsCo 06:21 PM 05-13-2013
Steal away!
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tratliff 08:52 PM 10-10-2013
I know this comment is late but I thought I would add for future reference, meat is extremely important to get organic and chemical ridden, but, it can also be crazy expensive. Farmer's markets are great options. Also, it may be possible to go in together with other people in the area and buy a portion of an animal to be butchered and split the cost from a local farmer. But, if there is no way to get organic meat, the leaner the meat, the better. Remove as much fat and skin from the meat as possible. Also, pork is the worst meat if it's not organic so I stay away from it. Local butchers and farmers are great people to talk to about finding local, healthy, foods.
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Michael 06:01 PM 10-11-2013
Originally Posted by LK5kids:
I would add organic milk and yogurt.
In my opinion, milk is a big one because of those that use growth hormone in cows. Corn (genetically modified) and meat (growth hormone).
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KidGrind 10:57 AM 11-03-2013
Originally Posted by Michael:
In my opinion, milk is a big one because of those that use growth hormone in cows. Corn (genetically modified) and meat (growth hormone).
I started using farm fresh milk for a local creamery. The creamery doesn't use any growth hormones and only uses antibiotics on animals that have health issues. Animals given antibiotics are taken off the milk line.

My family and DCKs love the milk. Their 2% tastes better than store brought whole milk. Don't even get me started on their butter.
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Josiegirl 12:22 PM 11-03-2013
How do you afford buying organic? Organic chicken was $9.something a pound today at the store. Eggs are almost 5 bucks compared to 1.59.
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Cradle2crayons 08:39 PM 11-03-2013
Originally Posted by Josiegirl:
How do you afford buying organic? Organic chicken was $9.something a pound today at the store. Eggs are almost 5 bucks compared to 1.59.
I am very lucky because I get all of my meat and eggs locally, including pork and bacon.

My family has a farm and they sell fresh free range eggs as well as they slaughter their own chickens to sell.

I have chickens also, so I never pay for eggs. And the ones hat don't lay or the extra roosters all are taken down the road here my uncle slaughters and packages them for me. As far as beef and pork, I get that from a local farm who raises and slaughters and packages up their beef, pork, even bacon and ground beef. So I inow it's not full of chemicals and gosh it tastes so much better. Also we do co op farming and they give me all the fresh veggies that I put up or can every year.

Maybe you can find a local farm? It's much cheaper than store bought and tastes so much better. And not to mention cheaper too!!
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craftymissbeth 07:01 AM 11-04-2013
Originally Posted by Cradle2crayons:
I am very lucky because I get all of my meat and eggs locally, including pork and bacon.

My family has a farm and they sell fresh free range eggs as well as they slaughter their own chickens to sell.

I have chickens also, so I never pay for eggs. And the ones hat don't lay or the extra roosters all are taken down the road here my uncle slaughters and packages them for me. As far as beef and pork, I get that from a local farm who raises and slaughters and packages up their beef, pork, even bacon and ground beef. So I inow it's not full of chemicals and gosh it tastes so much better. Also we do co op farming and they give me all the fresh veggies that I put up or can every year.

Maybe you can find a local farm? It's much cheaper than store bought and tastes so much better. And not to mention cheaper too!!
For some reason the farms around here that sell their products in local stores charge A LOT! I always hear that buying local is cheaper because they don't have as many transportation costs so it doesn't make sense to me. Local eggs were slightly more than store ought cage free organic eggs.
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