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mrsnj 09:13 AM 07-19-2013
Her daughter (We will call her A) comes on Monday with a 'canker sore' on her tonsil which is sore but otherwise good to go, she tells me at drop off. The next two days are daddy days. Wed A tells me she was throwing up Sunday night and had a fever too!! NOT what mom said. At that point she had been here two and half days but acting ok. Dad knows nothing about it. A is home yesterday cause her and another DCG (We will call her B) are going to the beach together but A's younger sister comes for the day and gets picked up by mom. B comes in this morning and tells me that the younger sister threw up in moms car on the way home!!! I am waiting for a call cause they arrive late everyday and was going to tell her younger child cannot come....
Meanwhile.....
I get a text from another DCP asking if I knew the sisters had hand foot and mouth!!!!?? Seems (insert not a nice word) DCM posted it on her FACEBOOK PAGE!
A 'friend' of divorce mom forwards it to my mad DCP and all hell broke loose. You see....mad DCP is friends with three other families here!! I am now getting texting left and right from very upset parents!
I text divorce mom (and dad) and tell her that it came to my attention that that girls are contagious and cannot return without a dr note and the younger one cannot return until Monday. SHE texts me to complain that I sent a group text and included her husband. No I am sorry I was caught. No sorry I exposed the kids. I send her the facebook message I received and told her she REALLY needs to be aware of what she is doing and posting that your children are contagious and you brought them to DC is not ok!!!!!!!!!!! That i have some very upset parents. She claims she didn't know. She took A to the dr Monday before coming (which I didn't know) and they didn't tell her she was contagious. Really? Cause she goes to MY peds and they would have told her AND told her not to bring the girls! IF she took A I guarantee there was a dr note.
Just sent B home cause she has it. And it seems half the kids who attended that party last Sat (that I complained about in last Fridays VBS post) are now sick. But 'she didn't know'. But she knew enough to post it on FB! She knew half the party kids were sick and dropping like flies. She knew A had more than a canker sore in her mouth. She knew A threw up and A had a fever. God knows if she knew about younger sister! She knew her sick girls were going to Dads who lives with his girlfriend and her kids and didn't tell them! What I know if that SHE KNEW and I didn't!
Now I have three DC kids sick. Three other families who are pissed off. And a virus going through that I had no clue about.
Can I simply tell you how MAD I AM????????
Meanwhile.....
I get a text from another DCP asking if I knew the sisters had hand foot and mouth!!!!?? Seems (insert not a nice word) DCM posted it on her FACEBOOK PAGE!
A 'friend' of divorce mom forwards it to my mad DCP and all hell broke loose. You see....mad DCP is friends with three other families here!! I am now getting texting left and right from very upset parents! I text divorce mom (and dad) and tell her that it came to my attention that that girls are contagious and cannot return without a dr note and the younger one cannot return until Monday. SHE texts me to complain that I sent a group text and included her husband. No I am sorry I was caught. No sorry I exposed the kids. I send her the facebook message I received and told her she REALLY needs to be aware of what she is doing and posting that your children are contagious and you brought them to DC is not ok!!!!!!!!!!! That i have some very upset parents. She claims she didn't know. She took A to the dr Monday before coming (which I didn't know) and they didn't tell her she was contagious. Really? Cause she goes to MY peds and they would have told her AND told her not to bring the girls! IF she took A I guarantee there was a dr note.
Just sent B home cause she has it. And it seems half the kids who attended that party last Sat (that I complained about in last Fridays VBS post) are now sick. But 'she didn't know'. But she knew enough to post it on FB! She knew half the party kids were sick and dropping like flies. She knew A had more than a canker sore in her mouth. She knew A threw up and A had a fever. God knows if she knew about younger sister! She knew her sick girls were going to Dads who lives with his girlfriend and her kids and didn't tell them! What I know if that SHE KNEW and I didn't!
Now I have three DC kids sick. Three other families who are pissed off. And a virus going through that I had no clue about.
Can I simply tell you how MAD I AM????????
LaLa1923 09:18 AM 07-19-2013
This entire thing is ridiculous. I think you need to sit down with dad, and mom and have a talk.
However, I probably would have termed them immediately.
I am so sorry you're going through this!!
TGIF!!!!!!
daycare 09:28 AM 07-19-2013
If this were me, I would be terming this family today....walking papers now. I would then let all of your families know that you did.....
If you keep this family, the other families may see it that you really don't care that the other children got sick and that it's about money..
WHO DOES THIS? OMG I feel for you right now. I would be STEAMING MAD.....
If you keep this family, the other families may see it that you really don't care that the other children got sick and that it's about money..
WHO DOES THIS? OMG I feel for you right now. I would be STEAMING MAD.....
Familycare71 09:29 AM 07-19-2013
WOW- that is one hot mess!!! All because one mom didnt keep her kids home! Grrrrr I'm mad for u!!!
I'm mad for u!!!
NeedaVaca 09:40 AM 07-19-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
If this were me, I would be terming this family today....walking papers now. I would then let all of your families know that you did.....
If you keep this family, the other families may see it that you really don't care that the other children got sick and that it's about money..
WHO DOES THIS? OMG I feel for you right now. I would be STEAMING MAD.....
100% If this were me, I would be terming this family today....walking papers now. I would then let all of your families know that you did.....
If you keep this family, the other families may see it that you really don't care that the other children got sick and that it's about money..
WHO DOES THIS? OMG I feel for you right now. I would be STEAMING MAD.....
There is just no way I would continue to deal with this family. Your other DCP's will probably have a lot of respect for you if you term (and the added bonus for you, they will know you don't mess around with this kind of BS).
Sugar Magnolia 09:43 AM 07-19-2013
Next! To this mom.......
MarinaVanessa 09:54 AM 07-19-2013
Wow, so sorry you are going through this. On top of what you are going through now you'll probably not going to like that HFM is extremely contagious and you will have to disinfect everything. And yes I mean everything. Surfaces, rugs, carpets, furniture, toys, blankets etc. You were in contact with the sick children which means that you more than likely touched just about everything in your home. HFM won't effect you but if the HFM was on you and you went to bed without showering, touched doorknobs etc you could potentially keep spreading it around your home and back to the kids 
.
HFM is not that bad to get if you're a child unless the child gets a severe case in which the child is extremely uncomfortable and usually won't eat or drink much which is great but it's still super easy to keep spreading.
As far as DCM goes ... well, that's up to you. Have you spoken to them both and made the policies clear yet (DCM & DCD)? If you have then it doesn't seem like DCM is taking you seriously and now it is affecting your business. You could possibly loose clients due to her actions. If you havn't talked to them yet then you really need to ASAP. As in yesterday.
Good luck with the HFM control
.HFM is not that bad to get if you're a child unless the child gets a severe case in which the child is extremely uncomfortable and usually won't eat or drink much which is great but it's still super easy to keep spreading.
As far as DCM goes ... well, that's up to you. Have you spoken to them both and made the policies clear yet (DCM & DCD)? If you have then it doesn't seem like DCM is taking you seriously and now it is affecting your business. You could possibly loose clients due to her actions. If you havn't talked to them yet then you really need to ASAP. As in yesterday.
Good luck with the HFM control
butterfly 10:15 AM 07-19-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
If this were me, I would be terming this family today....walking papers now. I would then let all of your families know that you did.....
If you keep this family, the other families may see it that you really don't care that the other children got sick and that it's about money..
WHO DOES THIS? OMG I feel for you right now. I would be STEAMING MAD.....
If this were me, I would be terming this family today....walking papers now. I would then let all of your families know that you did.....
If you keep this family, the other families may see it that you really don't care that the other children got sick and that it's about money..
WHO DOES THIS? OMG I feel for you right now. I would be STEAMING MAD.....
EntropyControlSpecialist 10:16 AM 07-19-2013
Originally Posted by LaLa1923:
This entire thing is ridiculous. I think you need to sit down with dad, and mom and have a talk.
However, I probably would have termed them immediately.
I am so sorry you're going through this!!
TGIF!!!!!!
ABSOLUTELY!This entire thing is ridiculous. I think you need to sit down with dad, and mom and have a talk.
However, I probably would have termed them immediately.
I am so sorry you're going through this!!
TGIF!!!!!!
I just termed a family that had sick children all the time and a Mom who just couldn't follow the rules regarding sickness. It was a dramatic end but I am so glad I don't have to worry about it anymore. Parents like that will NEVER change. I repeat: never.
Patches 11:06 AM 07-19-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
If this were me, I would be terming this family today....walking papers now. I would then let all of your families know that you did.....
If you keep this family, the other families may see it that you really don't care that the other children got sick and that it's about money..
WHO DOES THIS? OMG I feel for you right now. I would be STEAMING MAD.....
I completely agree! This is outrageous!If this were me, I would be terming this family today....walking papers now. I would then let all of your families know that you did.....
If you keep this family, the other families may see it that you really don't care that the other children got sick and that it's about money..
WHO DOES THIS? OMG I feel for you right now. I would be STEAMING MAD.....
Heidi 11:29 AM 07-19-2013
Originally Posted by NeedaVaca:
100% There is just no way I would continue to deal with this family. Your other DCP's will probably have a lot of respect for you if you term (and the added bonus for you, they will know you don't mess around with this kind of BS).
100%
There is just no way I would continue to deal with this family. Your other DCP's will probably have a lot of respect for you if you term (and the added bonus for you, they will know you don't mess around with this kind of BS).I think you need to hit her fast and hard, and I think you need to make an example out of her. I'm not usually quite so harsh, either, but this is a no brainer for me.
countrymom 11:51 AM 07-19-2013
don't you just love facebook. I'm not even sure what I would do because I would be so mad it take me a day to cool off.
Unregistered 11:59 AM 07-19-2013
I think you risk loosing your other families if you choose to keep this family on.
By letting them go you loose the stress the mom is stirring up, you show your other families that you wish to protect the health of the children as much as possible, and by terminating for not following your illness policy you will have all the other parents thinking twice before sending an ill child.
Which families do you value more and wish to keep?
By letting them go you loose the stress the mom is stirring up, you show your other families that you wish to protect the health of the children as much as possible, and by terminating for not following your illness policy you will have all the other parents thinking twice before sending an ill child.
Which families do you value more and wish to keep?
Familycare71 03:11 PM 07-19-2013
Originally Posted by MarinaVanessa:
Wow, so sorry you are going through this. On top of what you are going through now you'll probably not going to like that HFM is extremely contagious and you will have to disinfect everything. And yes I mean everything. Surfaces, rugs, carpets, furniture, toys, blankets etc. You were in contact with the sick children which means that you more than likely touched just about everything in your home. HFM won't effect you but if the HFM was on you and you went to bed without showering, touched doorknobs etc you could potentially keep spreading it around your home and back to the kids.
HFM is not that bad to get if you're a child unless the child gets a severe case in which the child is extremely uncomfortable and usually won't eat or drink much which is great but it's still super easy to keep spreading.
As far as DCM goes ... well, that's up to you. Have you spoken to them both and made the policies clear yet (DCM & DCD)? If you have then it doesn't seem like DCM is taking you seriously and now it is affecting your business. You could possibly loose clients due to her actions. If you havn't talked to them yet then you really need to ASAP. As in yesterday.
Good luck with the HFM control
I have never treated hfm differently than any other virus and it has t stayed and cycled... I've never heard that before... Wow, so sorry you are going through this. On top of what you are going through now you'll probably not going to like that HFM is extremely contagious and you will have to disinfect everything. And yes I mean everything. Surfaces, rugs, carpets, furniture, toys, blankets etc. You were in contact with the sick children which means that you more than likely touched just about everything in your home. HFM won't effect you but if the HFM was on you and you went to bed without showering, touched doorknobs etc you could potentially keep spreading it around your home and back to the kids
.HFM is not that bad to get if you're a child unless the child gets a severe case in which the child is extremely uncomfortable and usually won't eat or drink much which is great but it's still super easy to keep spreading.
As far as DCM goes ... well, that's up to you. Have you spoken to them both and made the policies clear yet (DCM & DCD)? If you have then it doesn't seem like DCM is taking you seriously and now it is affecting your business. You could possibly loose clients due to her actions. If you havn't talked to them yet then you really need to ASAP. As in yesterday.
Good luck with the HFM control
They also have new protocol regarding it and daycare inclusion. If they no longer have a fever they are allowed back - unless they can't participate in normal activities... I personally don't let them come if their blisters are oozing unless they are easily covered.
e.j. 03:39 PM 07-19-2013
Originally Posted by Unregistered:
I think you risk loosing your other families if you choose to keep this family on.
By letting them go you loose the stress the mom is stirring up, you show your other families that you wish to protect the health of the children as much as possible, and by terminating for not following your illness policy you will have all the other parents thinking twice before sending an ill child.
Which families do you value more and wish to keep?
I think you risk loosing your other families if you choose to keep this family on.
By letting them go you loose the stress the mom is stirring up, you show your other families that you wish to protect the health of the children as much as possible, and by terminating for not following your illness policy you will have all the other parents thinking twice before sending an ill child.
Which families do you value more and wish to keep?
Generally, I don't allow dc parents to tell me how to run my business but given the anger your other parents are expressing over this and the fact that their kids have been impacted by this mother's thoughtlessness, I would term her immediately. I'd hate to see you lose familes who respect you and your policies because you chose to keep working with this woman when she seems to be giving you nothing but grief.
sharlan 04:31 PM 07-19-2013
I really think it's time to let this mom go and move on.
Sereetta 05:07 PM 07-19-2013
Originally Posted by MarinaVanessa:
HFM won't effect you but if the HFM was on you and you went to bed without showering, touched doorknobs etc you could potentially keep spreading it around your home and back to the kids.
HFM is not that bad to get if you're a child unless the child gets a severe case in which the child is extremely uncomfortable and usually won't eat or drink much which is great but it's still super easy to keep spreading.
You can get Hand, Foot, and Mouth as an adult and it is extremely uncomfortable and painful. I got it from my son and he got seriously sick( we were in the hospital for a week). Be thankful that none of the kids are seriously sick and please sanitize everything. HFM won't effect you but if the HFM was on you and you went to bed without showering, touched doorknobs etc you could potentially keep spreading it around your home and back to the kids
.HFM is not that bad to get if you're a child unless the child gets a severe case in which the child is extremely uncomfortable and usually won't eat or drink much which is great but it's still super easy to keep spreading.
mrsnj 07:15 PM 07-19-2013
I email a friend of mine who also went to this party....her daughter is sick too!
Googled the info to refresh myself on it....'A' must have been sick since last Friday. It says 2-3 days before blisters begin after the start of the fever. That means she infected my VBS class too and was running a fever since this time last week. It also said they should not attend as long as symptoms are there. All three kids were here all week including A who was obviously throwing up sick since Sunday. She says the dr said ok.
Best part....the friend above tells me that DCM told her YESTERDAY the girls had it. Odd that since A was at the beach all day and little sister left here to do errands with DCM and didn't get to Bs house to pick up until after of which she threw up in the car. My ped is closed by then so she couldn't have taken her there to get that diagnosis . So WHEN did DCM tell my friend her kids were sick? WHEN did she see the dr to be told this? Hummm....lets all take a bet.
DCM says the ped didn't tell her they were sick or contagious. I think she is clearly lying. It isn't all adding up. When she found out. When she told people. Her FB post. Etc. I think she knew since Monday. Either way.....your oldest was sick with clear symptoms and you brought her and said nothing. Kids are dropping around this family like flies and she didn't think it made a difference? There was no link to her in her brain at all?
I have an interview tomorrow for a family. If they take the spots, I think I am terming Monday. I MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT speak with dad and see if he can take over drop off/pick up. If not then they are going on two week notice.
The virus isn't the issue. Kids get things like this. It was how she handled it. She walked around telling people, posting on FB, trying to blame it all on her ex like it was a game. In the end she made a lot of kids sick in her stupidity. Lying made a lot of kids sick. Her stupid actions made a lot of my parents upset. And when and if my daughter gets sick (and chances are high as she is friends with both A and B) I will be all over like a fly on poo. One DCP said she might just take her kids over to her house and knock on the door and tell her that her kids are sick and she is dropping them off to HER to watch since SHE got them sick! LOL! Love it. Divorce DCM would die!
Googled the info to refresh myself on it....'A' must have been sick since last Friday. It says 2-3 days before blisters begin after the start of the fever. That means she infected my VBS class too and was running a fever since this time last week. It also said they should not attend as long as symptoms are there. All three kids were here all week including A who was obviously throwing up sick since Sunday. She says the dr said ok.
Best part....the friend above tells me that DCM told her YESTERDAY the girls had it. Odd that since A was at the beach all day and little sister left here to do errands with DCM and didn't get to Bs house to pick up until after of which she threw up in the car. My ped is closed by then so she couldn't have taken her there to get that diagnosis . So WHEN did DCM tell my friend her kids were sick? WHEN did she see the dr to be told this? Hummm....lets all take a bet.
DCM says the ped didn't tell her they were sick or contagious. I think she is clearly lying. It isn't all adding up. When she found out. When she told people. Her FB post. Etc. I think she knew since Monday. Either way.....your oldest was sick with clear symptoms and you brought her and said nothing.
Kids are dropping around this family like flies and she didn't think it made a difference? There was no link to her in her brain at all? I have an interview tomorrow for a family. If they take the spots, I think I am terming Monday. I MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT speak with dad and see if he can take over drop off/pick up. If not then they are going on two week notice.
The virus isn't the issue. Kids get things like this. It was how she handled it. She walked around telling people, posting on FB, trying to blame it all on her ex like it was a game. In the end she made a lot of kids sick in her stupidity. Lying made a lot of kids sick. Her stupid actions made a lot of my parents upset. And when and if my daughter gets sick (and chances are high as she is friends with both A and B) I will be all over like a fly on poo. One DCP said she might just take her kids over to her house and knock on the door and tell her that her kids are sick and she is dropping them off to HER to watch since SHE got them sick! LOL! Love it. Divorce DCM would die!
Familycare71 09:11 PM 07-19-2013
Originally Posted by mrsnj:
I email a friend of mine who also went to this party....her daughter is sick too!
Googled the info to refresh myself on it....'A' must have been sick since last Friday. It says 2-3 days before blisters begin after the start of the fever. That means she infected my VBS class too and was running a fever since this time last week. It also said they should not attend as long as symptoms are there. All three kids were here all week including A who was obviously throwing up sick since Sunday. She says the dr said ok.
Best part....the friend above tells me that DCM told her YESTERDAY the girls had it. Odd that since A was at the beach all day and little sister left here to do errands with DCM and didn't get to Bs house to pick up until after of which she threw up in the car. My ped is closed by then so she couldn't have taken her there to get that diagnosis . So WHEN did DCM tell my friend her kids were sick? WHEN did she see the dr to be told this? Hummm....lets all take a bet.
DCM says the ped didn't tell her they were sick or contagious. I think she is clearly lying. It isn't all adding up. When she found out. When she told people. Her FB post. Etc. I think she knew since Monday. Either way.....your oldest was sick with clear symptoms and you brought her and said nothing. Kids are dropping around this family like flies and she didn't think it made a difference? There was no link to her in her brain at all?
I have an interview tomorrow for a family. If they take the spots, I think I am terming Monday. I MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT speak with dad and see if he can take over drop off/pick up. If not then they are going on two week notice.
The virus isn't the issue. Kids get things like this. It was how she handled it. She walked around telling people, posting on FB, trying to blame it all on her ex like it was a game. In the end she made a lot of kids sick in her stupidity. Lying made a lot of kids sick. Her stupid actions made a lot of my parents upset. And when and if my daughter gets sick (and chances are high as she is friends with both A and B) I will be all over like a fly on poo. One DCP said she might just take her kids over to her house and knock on the door and tell her that her kids are sick and she is dropping them off to HER to watch since SHE got them sick! LOL! Love it. Divorce DCM would die!
I think it's obvious why your mad and you have every right!!! I don't understand why parent don't get that it isn't just about them! I hope the new family enrolls and you can move on from this one!!I email a friend of mine who also went to this party....her daughter is sick too!
Googled the info to refresh myself on it....'A' must have been sick since last Friday. It says 2-3 days before blisters begin after the start of the fever. That means she infected my VBS class too and was running a fever since this time last week. It also said they should not attend as long as symptoms are there. All three kids were here all week including A who was obviously throwing up sick since Sunday. She says the dr said ok.
Best part....the friend above tells me that DCM told her YESTERDAY the girls had it. Odd that since A was at the beach all day and little sister left here to do errands with DCM and didn't get to Bs house to pick up until after of which she threw up in the car. My ped is closed by then so she couldn't have taken her there to get that diagnosis . So WHEN did DCM tell my friend her kids were sick? WHEN did she see the dr to be told this? Hummm....lets all take a bet.
DCM says the ped didn't tell her they were sick or contagious. I think she is clearly lying. It isn't all adding up. When she found out. When she told people. Her FB post. Etc. I think she knew since Monday. Either way.....your oldest was sick with clear symptoms and you brought her and said nothing.
Kids are dropping around this family like flies and she didn't think it made a difference? There was no link to her in her brain at all? I have an interview tomorrow for a family. If they take the spots, I think I am terming Monday. I MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT speak with dad and see if he can take over drop off/pick up. If not then they are going on two week notice.
The virus isn't the issue. Kids get things like this. It was how she handled it. She walked around telling people, posting on FB, trying to blame it all on her ex like it was a game. In the end she made a lot of kids sick in her stupidity. Lying made a lot of kids sick. Her stupid actions made a lot of my parents upset. And when and if my daughter gets sick (and chances are high as she is friends with both A and B) I will be all over like a fly on poo. One DCP said she might just take her kids over to her house and knock on the door and tell her that her kids are sick and she is dropping them off to HER to watch since SHE got them sick! LOL! Love it. Divorce DCM would die!
Unregistered 08:25 PM 07-23-2013
Originally Posted by daycare:
If this were me, I would be terming this family today....walking papers now. I would then let all of your families know that you did.....
If you keep this family, the other families may see it that you really don't care that the other children got sick and that it's about money..
WHO DOES THIS? OMG I feel for you right now. I would be STEAMING MAD.....
ABSOLUTELY! I make it very clear with my families when they interview that I don't tolerate lying to me, and they sign a paragraph in my contract acknowledging that I will terminate with no notice/no refund if they lie to me about illness.If this were me, I would be terming this family today....walking papers now. I would then let all of your families know that you did.....
If you keep this family, the other families may see it that you really don't care that the other children got sick and that it's about money..
WHO DOES THIS? OMG I feel for you right now. I would be STEAMING MAD.....