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lovemydaycare0912 02:42 PM 05-09-2016
...But too bad for them. Remember the termed family who made false accusations to me about not feeding their child? Yeah, they called my state licensing a whole month and then some later to complain.
The state came today, saw all my paperwork and documentation and closed the case. She saw how efficient I was and knew the parent was just upset and trying to get back at me.
Definitely DOCUMENT EVERYTHINGGGGGG even if your parents get mad. Had I not had that, it could have gone differently. It's very sad parents can be so spiteful, but God was on my side today. I am glad I do things right so I have nothing to be worried about.
The state came today, saw all my paperwork and documentation and closed the case. She saw how efficient I was and knew the parent was just upset and trying to get back at me.
Definitely DOCUMENT EVERYTHINGGGGGG even if your parents get mad. Had I not had that, it could have gone differently. It's very sad parents can be so spiteful, but God was on my side today. I am glad I do things right so I have nothing to be worried about.
Thriftylady 03:31 PM 05-09-2016
Originally Posted by lovemydaycare0912:
...But too bad for them. Remember the termed family who made false accusations to me about not feeding their child? Yeah, they called my state licensing a whole month and then some later to complain.
The state came today, saw all my paperwork and documentation and closed the case. She saw how efficient I was and knew the parent was just upset and trying to get back at me.
Definitely DOCUMENT EVERYTHINGGGGGG even if your parents get mad. Had I not had that, it could have gone differently. It's very sad parents can be so spiteful, but God was on my side today. I am glad I do things right so I have nothing to be worried about.
It is so sad, but we have to write down every little thing. Late payments? Better write it down. Non-payment? Better write it down. Every.Little.Thing. I hate it, but I digress. Sorry you had to deal with the visit though. Even though there was nothing to it, there was time out of your day and stress....But too bad for them. Remember the termed family who made false accusations to me about not feeding their child? Yeah, they called my state licensing a whole month and then some later to complain.
The state came today, saw all my paperwork and documentation and closed the case. She saw how efficient I was and knew the parent was just upset and trying to get back at me.
Definitely DOCUMENT EVERYTHINGGGGGG even if your parents get mad. Had I not had that, it could have gone differently. It's very sad parents can be so spiteful, but God was on my side today. I am glad I do things right so I have nothing to be worried about.
lovemydaycare0912 06:59 PM 05-09-2016
Thank you. I'm actually kind of happy. The parent will find out I am still running. See everything was washed away, and she did it all for nothing. There's always a storm before the calm. I know the saying goes the other way, but you need rain in order for your seeds to grow.
yodaone 07:11 PM 05-09-2016
I'm just curious what did you use for documentation?
lovemydaycare0912 07:21 PM 05-09-2016
Originally Posted by yodaone:
I'm just curious what did you use for documentation?
Everything. I showed e-mails and texts between parent and I. I had my sign/in out attendance sheets where parents document what time child enters daycare, and what time child leaves daycare. I had my contract, a copy of the handbook the parent had, and copies of any letters(memos) sent home. All copies of addendum that the parent signed I also had. Copies of the daily reports I give each parent daily. I'm just curious what did you use for documentation?
Also, being that the parent made a false accusation but kept her child here an extra 7 days and it probably would have been longer had I not termed. On top of that, she did not make the complaint until over a month after her child's last day in care.
All of that, including what I had in writing, and my verbal side of the story, the licensor knew she did it out of spite. Some parents are "good people," but when they get a no and feel like they've lost all control, they turn on you so quick. It's a lesson learned in my books.
Thriftylady 05:37 AM 05-10-2016
Originally Posted by lovemydaycare0912:
Everything. I showed e-mails and texts between parent and I. I had my sign/in out attendance sheets where parents document what time child enters daycare, and what time child leaves daycare. I had my contract, a copy of the handbook the parent had, and copies of any letters(memos) sent home. All copies of addendum that the parent signed I also had. Copies of the daily reports I give each parent daily.
Also, being that the parent made a false accusation but kept her child here an extra 7 days and it probably would have been longer had I not termed. On top of that, she did not make the complaint until over a month after her child's last day in care.
All of that, including what I had in writing, and my verbal side of the story, the licensor knew she did it out of spite. Some parents are "good people," but when they get a no and feel like they've lost all control, they turn on you so quick. It's a lesson learned in my books.
That is so true, some people just can't handle no.Everything. I showed e-mails and texts between parent and I. I had my sign/in out attendance sheets where parents document what time child enters daycare, and what time child leaves daycare. I had my contract, a copy of the handbook the parent had, and copies of any letters(memos) sent home. All copies of addendum that the parent signed I also had. Copies of the daily reports I give each parent daily.
Also, being that the parent made a false accusation but kept her child here an extra 7 days and it probably would have been longer had I not termed. On top of that, she did not make the complaint until over a month after her child's last day in care.
All of that, including what I had in writing, and my verbal side of the story, the licensor knew she did it out of spite. Some parents are "good people," but when they get a no and feel like they've lost all control, they turn on you so quick. It's a lesson learned in my books.
284878 11:14 AM 05-10-2016
The hard part is you think they are a good family so you don't take notes and then it happens. I let my case worker know that a good family left unhappy. I heard through the grapevine that DCM was going to report me. I never heard a thing from my case worker on it.
DaveA 11:21 AM 05-10-2016
Been there done that. 
Glad it was at least quick for you. Is stunning how small some people can be.
Glad it was at least quick for you. Is stunning how small some people can be.
lovemydaycare0912 11:39 AM 05-10-2016
Originally Posted by 284878:
The hard part is you think they are a good family so you don't take notes and then it happens. I let my case worker know that a good family left unhappy. I heard through the grapevine that DCM was going to report me. I never heard a thing from my case worker on it.
Well I knew they were a good family as in they didn't beat their child. However, I knew they wanted nanny care for the price of group care. Upset at every new policy, etc. She's some big boss of a company so when she couldn't control me it went south. Glad you didn't have to deal with that.The hard part is you think they are a good family so you don't take notes and then it happens. I let my case worker know that a good family left unhappy. I heard through the grapevine that DCM was going to report me. I never heard a thing from my case worker on it.
lovemydaycare0912 11:40 AM 05-10-2016
Originally Posted by DaveA:
Been there done that. Glad it was at least quick for you. Is stunning how small some people can be.
I am sorry you had to deal with this as well. It is the reason why I do no more special for any family. My motto is, you either like it, or leave. I can replace you. Sounds tough, but I do NOT want another situation like that if I can try to prevent it.Been there done that.
Glad it was at least quick for you. Is stunning how small some people can be.
AmyKidsCo 01:21 PM 05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Thriftylady:
It is so sad, but we have to write down every little thing. Late payments? Better write it down. Non-payment? Better write it down. Every.Little.Thing. I hate it, but I digress. Sorry you had to deal with the visit though. Even though there was nothing to it, there was time out of your day and stress.
No kidding. I was once told to document drop-off and pick-up conversations, especially any dealing with child development issues, payments, policies, injuries, etc. But who has time for that?!It is so sad, but we have to write down every little thing. Late payments? Better write it down. Non-payment? Better write it down. Every.Little.Thing. I hate it, but I digress. Sorry you had to deal with the visit though. Even though there was nothing to it, there was time out of your day and stress.
lovemydaycare0912 01:37 PM 05-10-2016
Originally Posted by AmyKidsCo:
No kidding. I was once told to document drop-off and pick-up conversations, especially any dealing with child development issues, payments, policies, injuries, etc. But who has time for that?!
I know. I feel like I need a composition book or something, but it's just so sad. I am trying to do better with my interviews to weed the crazies out but sometimes you don't know until the end.No kidding. I was once told to document drop-off and pick-up conversations, especially any dealing with child development issues, payments, policies, injuries, etc. But who has time for that?!
Blackcat31 01:50 PM 05-10-2016
Originally Posted by AmyKidsCo:
No kidding. I was once told to document drop-off and pick-up conversations, especially any dealing with child development issues, payments, policies, injuries, etc. But who has time for that?!
I have video cameras inside in every room covering every angle. No kidding. I was once told to document drop-off and pick-up conversations, especially any dealing with child development issues, payments, policies, injuries, etc. But who has time for that?!
The entire system records sound too.
Documentation has never been so easy.
Baby Beluga 02:08 PM 05-10-2016
Originally Posted by AmyKidsCo:
No kidding. I was once told to document drop-off and pick-up conversations, especially any dealing with child development issues, payments, policies, injuries, etc. But who has time for that?!
If I have a problem parent, or know I am going to have a discussion on behavior, payments, etc I record the conversation on my phone then save it on my computer. I have also started recording interviews. I put my phone on record and pop it in my pants pocket. That way if a parent lies about something important and I have to term over it I have proof they were dishonest from the beginning.No kidding. I was once told to document drop-off and pick-up conversations, especially any dealing with child development issues, payments, policies, injuries, etc. But who has time for that?!
ETA: before recording, check the laws in your state. My state has a "one party consent law."
grandmom 02:31 PM 05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
I have video cameras inside in every room covering every angle.
The entire system records sound too.
Documentation has never been so easy.
Blackcat! What system do you have? I'm especially interested.I have video cameras inside in every room covering every angle.
The entire system records sound too.
Documentation has never been so easy.
Blackcat31 02:51 PM 05-10-2016
Originally Posted by grandmom:
Blackcat! What system do you have? I'm especially interested.
Nightowl Blackcat! What system do you have? I'm especially interested.
http://nightowlsp.com/products/compl...6-channel.html
My cameras are NOT for parental viewing. They are strictly for MY use and not available for parents to log into any type of live feed or available for them to view recorded footage.
I have every angle of my home (inside covered) other than the bathroom and I have every angle of my yard outside covered as well.
It's especially helpful since I do not live in my daycare house, that the system sends alerts to my smart phone whenever there is any activity.
I can set the system to record continuously, not at all or only when action or movement is detected.
lovemydaycare0912 03:13 PM 05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Nightowl
http://nightowlsp.com/products/compl...6-channel.html
My cameras are NOT for parental viewing. They are strictly for MY use and not available for parents to log into any type of live feed or available for them to view recorded footage.
I have every angle of my home (inside covered) other than the bathroom and I have every angle of my yard outside covered as well.
It's especially helpful since I do not live in my daycare house, that the system sends alerts to my smart phone whenever there is any activity.
I can set the system to record continuously, not at all or only when action or movement is detected.
I will look into this for the future.Nightowl
http://nightowlsp.com/products/compl...6-channel.html
My cameras are NOT for parental viewing. They are strictly for MY use and not available for parents to log into any type of live feed or available for them to view recorded footage.
I have every angle of my home (inside covered) other than the bathroom and I have every angle of my yard outside covered as well.
It's especially helpful since I do not live in my daycare house, that the system sends alerts to my smart phone whenever there is any activity.
I can set the system to record continuously, not at all or only when action or movement is detected.
lovemydaycare0912 03:13 PM 05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Baby Beluga:
If I have a problem parent, or know I am going to have a discussion on behavior, payments, etc I record the conversation on my phone then save it on my computer. I have also started recording interviews. I put my phone on record and pop it in my pants pocket. That way if a parent lies about something important and I have to term over it I have proof they were dishonest from the beginning.
ETA: before recording, check the laws in your state. My state has a "one party consent law."
I am going to have to check the laws in my state. This would have been perfect for that situation lolIf I have a problem parent, or know I am going to have a discussion on behavior, payments, etc I record the conversation on my phone then save it on my computer. I have also started recording interviews. I put my phone on record and pop it in my pants pocket. That way if a parent lies about something important and I have to term over it I have proof they were dishonest from the beginning.
ETA: before recording, check the laws in your state. My state has a "one party consent law."
284878 05:26 AM 05-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baby Beluga:
If I have a problem parent, or know I am going to have a discussion on behavior, payments, etc I record the conversation on my phone then save it on my computer. I have also started recording interviews. I put my phone on record and pop it in my pants pocket. That way if a parent lies about something important and I have to term over it I have proof they were dishonest from the beginning.
ETA: before recording, check the laws in your state. My state has a "one party consent law."
I've been waiting to do this too. But keep forgetting to set it up. What app do you use?If I have a problem parent, or know I am going to have a discussion on behavior, payments, etc I record the conversation on my phone then save it on my computer. I have also started recording interviews. I put my phone on record and pop it in my pants pocket. That way if a parent lies about something important and I have to term over it I have proof they were dishonest from the beginning.
ETA: before recording, check the laws in your state. My state has a "one party consent law."
Thriftylady 06:37 AM 05-11-2016
I would like to know the app also. Just looked it up, Ohio is one party consent.
Blackcat31 07:40 AM 05-11-2016
Originally Posted by 284878:
I've been waiting to do this too. But keep forgetting to set it up. What app do you use?
My smart phone has a built in recording feature on it. I've been waiting to do this too. But keep forgetting to set it up. What app do you use?
No app required.
Blackcat31 07:46 AM 05-11-2016
Thirty-eight states and the District of Columbia permit individuals to record conversations to which they are a party without informing the other parties that they are doing so.
Twelve states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation.
Those jurisdictions are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington.
Be aware that you will sometimes hear these referred to inaccurately as “two-party consent” laws.
If there are more than two people involved in the conversation, all must consent to the taping.
Because these laws were written with journalists in mind, many factors weigh into the legality of recording. You can read more about your state's specific laws here
Twelve states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation.
Those jurisdictions are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington.
Be aware that you will sometimes hear these referred to inaccurately as “two-party consent” laws.
If there are more than two people involved in the conversation, all must consent to the taping.
Because these laws were written with journalists in mind, many factors weigh into the legality of recording. You can read more about your state's specific laws here
daycarediva 09:00 AM 05-11-2016
Originally Posted by Blackcat31:
Thirty-eight states and the District of Columbia permit individuals to record conversations to which they are a party without informing the other parties that they are doing so.
Twelve states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation.
Those jurisdictions are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington.
Be aware that you will sometimes hear these referred to inaccurately as “two-party consent” laws.
If there are more than two people involved in the conversation, all must consent to the taping.
Because these laws were written with journalists in mind, many factors weigh into the legality of recording. You can read more about your state's specific laws here
Thirty-eight states and the District of Columbia permit individuals to record conversations to which they are a party without informing the other parties that they are doing so.
Twelve states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation.
Those jurisdictions are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington.
Be aware that you will sometimes hear these referred to inaccurately as “two-party consent” laws.
If there are more than two people involved in the conversation, all must consent to the taping.
Because these laws were written with journalists in mind, many factors weigh into the legality of recording. You can read more about your state's specific laws here
I never thought to record an interview! I just purchased video cameras for the daycare space (indoor and out). They record video/audio all of my spaces aside from the restroom. I just researched this, I sent DS to school with a video camera in his shirt pocket. He has high functioning autism and had suddenly been aggressive at school (hit student!)
I recorded his day, and it showed the student repeatedly instigating him and the aides doing nothing, ds moving, asking him to stop, and the teacher redirecting him back to his seat. Ds did hit him. I emailed the teacher and that student was changed to a different seat- problem solved! My son ended up not getting stuck with a BIP, which he has never needed.
Ariana 10:45 AM 05-11-2016
Originally Posted by daycarediva:
I just researched this, I sent DS to school with a video camera in his shirt pocket. He has high functioning autism and had suddenly been aggressive at school (hit student!) I recorded his day, and it showed the student repeatedly instigating him and the aides doing nothing, ds moving, asking him to stop, and the teacher redirecting him back to his seat. Ds did hit him.
I emailed the teacher and that student was changed to a different seat- problem solved! My son ended up not getting stuck with a BIP, which he has never needed.
That is awesome!! I just researched this, I sent DS to school with a video camera in his shirt pocket. He has high functioning autism and had suddenly been aggressive at school (hit student!)
I recorded his day, and it showed the student repeatedly instigating him and the aides doing nothing, ds moving, asking him to stop, and the teacher redirecting him back to his seat. Ds did hit him. I emailed the teacher and that student was changed to a different seat- problem solved! My son ended up not getting stuck with a BIP, which he has never needed.