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Old 07-14-2012, 09:36 AM
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Default Sometimes CL Ads Make Me Angry (Kind of a Vent)

Today's ridiculous CL ad, seeking childcare (leaving out some identifying details for privacy purposes):

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I need child care for my 5 year old daughter -

The hours I need are Monday - Friday from 8:30am until 4:00pm.

I prefer in my home

I am willing to pay $100 a week - payable on Fridays. I will subtract $20 every day she is out sick, which doesn't happen often. I will provide snacks and meals every day. She has a severe peanut allergy.


Please do NOT contact me if you cannot pass a criminal background check and random drug screens.

Please do NOT contact me if you have NO experience with children.

Please do NOT contact me if you cannot provide at least 5 references.

Sorry if I'm being sensitive today (preggo hormones, lol), but I am SO, SO sick of seeing ads from parents wanting Nanny care for less than half of minimum wage, parents who INFORM us that they "will be subtracting X amount" for sick days, and yet expect the very best provider there is. I just wish they could walk a mile in our shoes. I'd bet that two days of doing what we do would change their tunes drastically.

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Old 07-14-2012, 10:17 AM
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I'd be only TOO tempted to msg her and say "HAHA, GOOD LUCK!!!!"
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Old 07-14-2012, 10:19 AM
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$2.67 per hour - sign me up!

Tell her "Good luck honey!"
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:49 PM
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My 15 year old daughter would do it for that, but considering mom's criteria, I don't think she's looking for a teenager.
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:33 PM
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$2.67 per hour - sign me up!

Tell her "Good luck honey!"
I just don't see someone jumping up and down to be a nanny in her home for that price.
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:25 PM
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good luck with that! wow that is crazy. I am sure she will not have to many applicants.
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:36 PM
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she's crazy, plain and simple.
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:04 PM
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Well....I guess it never hurts to put it out there and hope that someone bites. I think the tone of the ad would turn me off almost more than the rate of pay she's offering!
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Old 07-15-2012, 08:51 AM
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If it's not an ad that you're interested in, why care what someone else is advertising for?

People have their budgets and have to try to live within them.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:09 PM
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Sharlan, I normally try very hard to stay away from conflict here, but in this case I feel like the point of your post above was simply to make me feel petty and foolish.

The actual point of my post was that providers are underappreciated and often underpaid, and that some parents don't realize it...or they do and don't care. She didn't say "all I can afford is...." or "My budget only allows for". She said "I am WILLING to pay" and "I will be subtracting" and "do NOT contact me if....". I feel that parents who feel this way would benefit from a day in the life. Now, by the same token, I don't know this person, and I don't know her situation, so the same could be said of me - she could be going through a hard financial time. However, I'd think that someone who was looking for something for nothing, whatever the reason, would take the time to word their ad in a less condescending, authoritative way.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:28 PM
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Honestly, $100 a week is just below average where I live. The only difference is that deductions for sick days wouldn't fly.

That being said, I think it depends on the area. Around here, cl ads say they are willing to pay $75 per week.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:03 PM
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Actually, I make under $100 a week for one of my kids. And until I found my backbone last winter (again, thank you!), she deducted for sick days. But, this is a very poor rural area. She couldn't afford to pay me $100 on her barely-above-minimum wage job.

I get the same amount each week now, since she pays for a spot not for use.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:14 PM
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Honestly, $100 a week is just below average where I live. The only difference is that deductions for sick days wouldn't fly.

That being said, I think it depends on the area. Around here, cl ads say they are willing to pay $75 per week.
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Actually, I make under $100 a week for one of my kids. And until I found my backbone last winter (again, thank you!), she deducted for sick days. But, this is a very poor rural area. She couldn't afford to pay me $100 on her barely-above-minimum wage job.

I get the same amount each week now, since she pays for a spot not for use.
For group care in your home, though, right? Not nanny care. Or are nannies making that amount too?
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:21 PM
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I really didn't like some of her wording but her pay is pretty much on for most areas anymore it seems like (well most places). We have a place here that is $1.50 an hour. I think even for nanny care for 1 child it isn't to bad. I guess you would have to see what your other responsibilities were but I think it would be an awesome job especially the hours!!!!! We don't make minimum wage per child so why would a nanny?
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:32 PM
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We don't make minimum wage per child so why would a nanny?
Because it'd be a nanny's only source of income? It's just one child/family, so it isn't a per child situation. Not many can survive on $400-500 per month, TOTAL income, with even that being before taxes.

I'm not really sure why I'm continuing to argue about this. Again, I apologize for my current hormone levels.
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:10 PM
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You know, she maybe looking for more of a grandma, auntie type person then an actual nanny. I think it would be awesome for maybe a little bit older person who may not have much going on during their day.

I have a friend who works for our local school district and once taxes/insurance is taken out they get a whooping $800 dollars a month. Another friend has worked for the district for 17 years and only makes $1000 after taxes/insurance is taken out. Yes, they both work full time at the schools.
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:23 PM
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My problem lies with the fact that if someone can't afford nanny cade ($10/hr )
they should not expect nanny care at their own home for $100 week. If you can only afford $100 go to in home daycare
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:25 PM
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For group care in your home, though, right? Not nanny care. Or are nannies making that amount too?
Here, nannies make $3/hr. For the hours in the ad that comes out to $112.50

I think it depends on where you are and what the going rate is in your area. For example, there are 2 home daycares in my area that have ads on cl with their rates. One charges $90 a week, the other charges $110.
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Old 07-15-2012, 08:48 PM
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Wow $3 is dirt cheap for nanny care! What is the incentive for the nanny? I live in Ohio near Columbus & nannied for a family pt
I made $10/hr.& that is on the cheap end for here.
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I really didn't like some of her wording but her pay is pretty much on for most areas anymore it seems like (well most places). We have a place here that is $1.50 an hour. I think even for nanny care for 1 child it isn't to bad. I guess you would have to see what your other responsibilities were but I think it would be an awesome job especially the hours!!!!! We don't make minimum wage per child so why would a nanny?
Nannies around here make a minimum of $10.00 an hour for 1 child.
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:43 AM
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There are some home daycares here for $100/week but nannies run much more at between $12-20/hour. Nannies here must be paid minimum wage.
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:52 AM
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I'm sure people skirt around it by paying cash, but paying a nanny less than minumum wage to work in your home is against labor laws. Not saying it doesn't happen, we all know it does, but it's not really ok. If it's a teenager just making a little summer money, that's one thing, although technically even then it should be done "correctly". It may be that if it totals a certain amount in a year, know one would care. Tom would know for sure.

When a person is hired to work in your home under your supervision, you are required to be an employer. Which means, you pay at least minimum wage, you have an EIN, you set the schedule, you give the job description, you are responsible for medicare, ss, unemployment, and federal/state tax withholding. .

Some people get around that by calling the person and independent contractor, but there are guidelines for that too. If someone, for instance, is comming to mow your lawn every week, and mows countless other lawns, the independent contractor thing can apply. We are independent contractors too, I believe, because WE decide on the job description, rates charged, etc.

I agree with OP that the tone was rather condescending. You just never know what this person's story is, though. I guess she can try. Maybe she'll get the perfect Nanny for $100/week. I'm kind of doubting it, though.
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:14 AM
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I am a nanny. I make WAY over $3.00 a hour.

What parents pay for in a nanny is the fact that they don't have to transport their child(ren), the nanny comes to them. The nanny provides light housekeeping. The nanny provides one on one (depending on the number of children) care. The nanny provides personalized and individual care not only for the child(ren) but for the family. You don't get this within daycare or home care.

When I read ads like this, I find it insulting. A few times I have emailed these people and told them Good Luck! I truly believe you get what you pay for. So if you want Mary Poppins, then you need to pay more than $3 a hour.
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:10 AM
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Wow, I'm amazed at what some people get paid. I charge $125.00 a week full time (age does not matter) and $75.00 for part time. I charged about $100 a week when I did daycare 16 years ago and I have never had a problem staying full. The area I live in is mostly made up of middle to lower income and I admit most of my clients are state pay but the state pays about $105.00 for a school aged child, $112 for preschool and $125 for an infant. I feel like I don't get paid enough but I guess I should feel lucky! I'm actually thinking about raising my rates but maybe I should wait.
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:18 AM
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I remember a lady here in my area posted that she was doing childcare out of a hotel room. I would NEVER have someone watch my children out of a hotel room. So I understand how you feel about some of the CL ads. I get a good laugh out of some of them as I check it often to make sure my rates are within the same range of others in the same area.
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