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Old 01-23-2018, 05:41 PM
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I have two false charges that were filed against me by my abusive husband. I was in a domestic violence situation but am no longer in danger.

When I finally got the courage to stand up to him by verbally telling him I wasn't going to take his abuse anymore, he retaliated by filing charges against me! Long story short, he asked the police to escort me out of the house at midnight with nowhere to go! I told the police that I would rather be arrested than be a female outside after midnight, which is dangerous and VERY scary. I allowed the arrest to happen because I was scared but was charged with violating a protective order, which was dismissed a few weeks later. I was also issued a final protective order because I tried to contest the charges, which is ridiculous! Luckily, I asked for another hearing and the judge ruled in my favor.

Now, the violation of the protective order has been dropped, which can be expunged, and I also had the final protective order dropped, which can only be shielded. As far as I know, a shielded, non-conviction still shows up on a background check for children. Again, both of them are false and were initiated by my husband.

The problem with this situation is, I love working with children and I am excellent at it! Will I be barred from the job I love? I have a job recommendation letter and several references. Even with the recommendation letter and references will I be prevented from working in this field? The final protective order was dismissed and shielded but is my career really over?

By the way, I live in Maryland if anyone is familiar with the laws here.
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:37 PM
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It’s going to depend on your state. Where I live, in California....it might be hard to get licensed as a home provider, but you’d probably be able to work in a center or preschool. The first thing I’d do, is order a live scan and background check of myself just to see what shows up.
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Old 01-23-2018, 06:37 PM
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Probably not a problem but That would depend on your state’s licensing standards. Here are the Maryland requirements and contact numbers.
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Old 01-24-2018, 05:36 AM
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It isn't that easy to get a protective order in the first place, that will be your first hurdle. https://www.peoples-law.org/protective-orders
  • "An act that causes serious bodily harm (e.g., kicking, punching, choking/strangling, shoving, shooting, hitting with an object, stabbing, or biting);
  • An act that places a person in fear of imminent serious bodily harm (including threats of harm);
  • Assault;
  • Rape or sexual assault (including attempts);
  • False imprisonment;
  • Mental injury to a minor child; or
  • Stalking."

Two charges following qualifying for that order may make working in this field really tough for you. Maryland views you as the abuser. Have you spoken with a lawyer yet?
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Cat Herder,

Please read my post again. I do not have two orders of protection and protective orders are in fact extremely easy to put in place. In fact, they are put in place quite frequently and the court system is well aware that some people put orders of protection in place in retaliation during domestic disputes. However, the courts still have to take all of these matters seriously for obvious reasons.

But back to my question, I was not asking for legal advice. I'm actually asking about the possibility of working in the field that I love, and am very good at, after the allegations which have been placed against me, and which are civil not criminal.
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Probably not a problem but That would depend on your state’s licensing standards. Here are the Maryland requirements and contact numbers.
Michael, thank you for your response but the links you mentioned did not show up in your post.
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http://earlychildhood.marylandpublic...ice-child-care

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Old 01-31-2018, 03:16 AM
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Cat Herder, your link is not a direct response to my question. Instead it is a licensing statement from the Office of Child Care. I am not sure if you are indirectly trying to imply that I will not be able to work in the field or if you are just unsure about the outcome of my job inquiries.

If there are others on this forum who may be able to give a more direct answer, that would be helpful. My original post outlines my dilemma in detail. Thank you everyone.
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Old 01-31-2018, 03:35 AM
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Just to further clarify, I currently have no charges against me nor was I ever guilty of anything. I had one charge against me, which was dropped, and I had an order of protection against me, which was also dropped after my husband admitted in front of the judge that the charges were false.

Again, I now have no charges, nor was I ever guilty. The reason or my original question is that court records still show up on a background check and I am wondering if that will bar me from the field.

My original post states the details of my question and what happened.
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Old 01-31-2018, 03:50 AM
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I have answered to the best of my knowledge and given you concrete links to the appropriate resources to contact in your state for direct answers. I can't help if you prefer to read malice into that. Again, I wish you good luck in your goals. Nothing more. Nothing less.

http://earlychildhood.marylandpublic...org/contact-us - The contact us tab on the link I gave you. Type your question into this form and they will answer you.
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Wow... ask for help/assistance and then get rude with those that try to help you.
Your hostility suggests there is more to the story than what you are posting....

So my advice is to contact Maryland licensing and ask them. (Use the link Cat Herder posted. )

They WILL and DO know the answer to your questions.

Cat Herder was merely taking time from her busy day to offer you FREE advice.... just to be treated unkindly.

Doubt you will get further assistance from anyone here.

Good luck in your search for answers.
I hope your "skills" with children are much more kind and friendly than you've demonstrated here.
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Old 01-31-2018, 09:33 AM
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Wow, not sure how this conversation turned south or how my post was rude. It seems that my words were taken out of context due to this conversation being online as opposed to being able to see or hear my voice or facial expressions.

Anyway, the reason I came back to this thread is to post some positive news! I found out from the board of education and from the Criminal Justice Informational Service that background checks only search for criminal offenses not civil matters. Thank goodness because that would be extremely unfair and could bar a lot of people from employment. Since I have no criminal charges, nor am I engaged in any such activity, I will be fine.

The reason for my original question was that I was hoping someone would be familiar with the background check process. Of course I could have searched directly but thought this forum would be easier.

Hopefully my final response will be helpful for others searching for similar information. Clearly situations like this can lead to misconceptions about people.
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Old 01-31-2018, 09:42 AM
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I have answered to the best of my knowledge and given you concrete links to the appropriate resources to contact in your state for direct answers. I can't help if you prefer to read malice into that. Again, I wish you good luck in your goals. Nothing more. Nothing less.

http://earlychildhood.marylandpublic...org/contact-us - The contact us tab on the link I gave you. Type your question into this form and they will answer you.
Cat Herder, after reading your post again I see the link you posted. I didn't see that post earlier probably because it was so early in the morning and I hadn't fully woken up yet. I also called the Maryland State Department of Education and spoke with someone in charge of processing background checks. The link you provided was to the ccredentialing program which is a different department. By the way, I am not trying to be rude in any way by mentioning that. I only point it out in case you ever encounter someone asking a similar question.

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Old 01-31-2018, 09:54 AM
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I also called the Maryland State Department of Education and spoke with someone in charge of processing background checks. The link you provided was to the ccredentialing program which is a different department. By the way, I am not trying to be rude in any way by mentioning that. I only point it out in case you ever encounter someone asking a similar question.

Take care.
Did you read past the first sentence?

"Questions about your Child Care Credential Program (MCCCP)? Contact Child Care Central at 1-866-243-8796 option 4 or email cccredential@conduent.com (link sends e-mail)

Questions about the Basic Health and Safety Training? Email healthandsafetyocc.msde@maryland.gov (link sends e-mail)

Questions about a voucher or Subsidy Application? Contact CCS Central at 1-866-243-8796.

"Have a question? Contact the MSDE Division of Early Childhood using the form below." MSDE = Maryland State Department of Education

You have made a simple conversation very difficult. I am glad you did talk to someone in MSDE, though. That will be the best source of information for you.
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Did you read past the first sentence?

You have made a simple conversation very difficult.
Don't you have anything better to do besides troll the Internet? I'm outta' here. PEACE!
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Don't you have anything better to do besides troll the Internet? I'm outta' here. PEACE!
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Don't you have anything better to do besides troll the Internet? I'm outta' here. PEACE!
Cathearder a troll? I just spit out my soy mocha latte!

Ummm she's been here forever and is a highly educated, skilled, and frankly quite famous up in here.

I love when something new pops up in a post. Cat being a troll. .. not exactly what I enjoy but I will give you some cred for it being unique.

Might want to apologize cuz she could end up being your bestie in if you are a newbie and can't mange through the very beginning without trying to take a shortcut via our expertise.

She's a wealth of info. Think first.
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:39 AM
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I just saw you have more posts than I do. I'm a little jealous. I have been here nine whole months longer than you though so there.

lots of posts for a troll. I will give you that.
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I just saw you have more posts than I do. I'm a little jealous. I have been here nine whole months longer than you though so there.

lots of posts for a troll. I will give you that.
I have not been quite as busy as you, recently. No worries, you will catch up.

I really did think the legal non-profit ("supported by Maryland's non-profit legal services providers, Maryland pro bono attorneys, and the legal academic community.") from her state and state info would answer her questions. I am at a loss, here. Hopefully when she is less stressed she will read it all as intended.
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Just sayin’
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Lol! Wow...
I've noticed a pattern with certain posters. It never fails, you females are very catty. I didn't read her response as rude, just clarifying. No wonder no one actually posts on here.. sheesh!

And busy day? How? Posting snide remarks online. Shouldn't you be watching someone's kids? Lol!!!
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Lol! Wow...
I've noticed a pattern with certain posters. It never fails, you females are very catty. I didn't read her response as rude, just clarifying. No wonder no one actually posts on here.. sheesh!

And busy day? How? Posting snide remarks online. Shouldn't you be watching someone's kids? Lol!!!
Feel better? Did you get any on you?
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Feel better? Did you get any on you?
Go babysit grandma! Isn't that what you actually get paid for?

Waiting for the other hit dog, oops cat, to holler....

Stay bitter cat lady!!
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Go babysit grandma! Isn't that what you actually get paid for?

Waiting for the other hit dog, oops cat, to holler....

Stay bitter cat lady!!
Back to the OP 's question....With that history, if you we or weren't innocent, I would err on the side of caution and not hire you. I have kids to protect.

I turned in an employee of a center in my town due to her getting arrested for domestic. She claimed innocent / misunderstanding/ not my fault blah blah blah....anyways Childrens safety comes first. Her hubby worked with my ex. It was true. She got fired.

Misunderstanding in domestic are a ticking time bomb IMO.
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